Friday, March 22, 2013

Re: i write a new vim package/plugin manager like debian's apt

On 13:47 Tue 12 Mar , Marc Weber wrote:
> > but if the package manager provide a uniform interface to handle this
> > job. it maybe more better.
> If it was a plugin - all package managers could be used ..
>
> > >> 1.2 some plugin need python support or set nocompatible,but unless
> > >> you
> > >> read the doc before, you will fall and you don't know why
> You're right. But almost all .vimrc samples contain it. And this is hard
> to avoid without breaking backward compatibility.
> I'd vote for making "nocompatible" default instantly.
>
> For nocomp you can check :echo &compatible
> For filetype I don't know exactly - maybe somebody else know.
>
> I personally struggeled with closing Vim coming from a Windows world
> years ago, - I had trouble understand the help screen which says:
>
> type :q<Enter> to exit
>
> Because it didn't come to my mind that the : belongs to the keys to be
> typed.
> I think its more important to tell people about where to get help
> (mailinglist, irc, ...) because this kind of problem is solved fast.
>
> > [.. many lines you didn't reply to ..]
> @孔晓泉: Consider removing email text you're not replying to.
>
> Meanwhile I've also read your blog post:
> http://www.howlanderson.net/?cat=33
>
> I find this interesting:
>
> quote:
> The concept of the warehouse Provide similar linux distro warehouses
> similar standardized the remote packet warehouse, provide carefully
> check the package through a rigorous screening provides official
> assurance (TODO: due to staffing and funding issues, is preparing for
> the official repository for vim plugin)
>
> especially:
> rigorous screening provides official assurance
>
> Do you think somebody will provide the man power to review all packages
> available (or let's say most packages being used?)
>
> Eventually vim-scripts.org could be called such a warehouse, but without
> screening.
>
> If you want to collaborate with the VAM team on some topics keep in
> touch.
>
> Yours
> Marc Weber
>
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I think this blog post nicely illustrates why we need more cooperation
on vim.org:
http://delvarworld.github.com/blog/2013/03/16/just-use-sublime-text/

Best regards,
Marcin

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