Sunday, August 25, 2013

Re: Mapping <*-CR>

On Sunday, August 25, 2013 4:10:44 PM UTC-4, Michael Henry wrote:
> On 08/25/2013 02:16 PM, Nikolay Pavlov wrote:
>
> > TERM=konsole and TERM=konsole-256color are contained in my
> > terminfo database, seem to work fine with konsole and can be
> > configured in profiles/environment variables. To my surprise,
> > files in /usr/share/terminfo regarding konsole were installed
> > by ncurses and not by konsole, but it appears that *all* other
> > entries there except for fbterm come from sys-libs/ncurses. So
> > I can't say whether using such non-standard $TERM is fine, but
> > I do use it (-256color variant).

I wrote them. None of the GNOME or KDE developers have contributed
that I recall to any of the terminal descriptions that are relevant.

> > Note that konsole is the only terminal I know that supports
> > true color. Using non-standard $TERM makes me able to
> > recognize konsole and enable true color support in some
> > applications (i.e. vim, there is a patch for this lying
> > somewhere, search for 'guicolors').

as the stackoverflow link comments, xterm recognizes the escape
sequence and matches it against its palette. (Reading konsole's
code, it seems that it does the same thing - ymmv)

> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6403744/are-there-terminals-that-support-true-color
>
>
>
> They mention only Konsole as having true color, and a tiny bit
> more searching on my part doesn't turn up anything else (other
> than another terminal based on Konsole). If you want true
> color, you may have to live with Konsole (though you could
> certainly do worse).

no... see the comment by Tangent 128. xterm patch #282 implements
the sequence as noted above.

> You may find, however, that some things don't work quite right
> now that Konsole sends xterm-compatible keycodes. The "konsole"

Testing konsole 2.10.5 on Fedora19, I see that it does not.
It matches the "konsole" entry which I wrote.

That's probably the most recent copy of konsole that I can test.

> entry in terminfo matches an older version of Konsole, so
> programs that use terminfo to determine what to expect will be
> unable to recognize the keys.

Now that I'm reminded, I can retest and see if another change crept in
(when I see a newer version of konsole).

> Basically, since modern Konsole is trying to emulate xterm,
> TERM=xterm is a closer match to the actual behavior than the old
> TERM=konsole entry.

Both konsole and gnome-terminal have been pretty stagnant for several years.
Both have had as a goal, to "emulate xterm" for more than ten years,
but have not made progress on that.

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