Wednesday, November 27, 2013

Re: improving Vim - Kickstarter - brainstorming - goals - who wants to join?

On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:52:59 PM UTC+4, Saad Malik wrote:
> Yes! I'd contribute to a Kickstarter campaign for enhancing ViM.
> * true async support in the core. Remove notions of updatetime since everything will be async

True asynchronous support is badly needed. But for compatibility with existing plugins updatetime must not be removed.

> * remove backwards compatibility to Vi. I'm assuming that vi backwards compatibility is hard to maintain? At the very least make nocompatible the default

I do not remember when I have last seen bugs here related to 'cpoptions'. Thus I assume it is not.

> * replace cryptic one letter options like coptions

Not replace, but rather add new interface for them.

> * integrate popular plugins into the core: syntastic, ctrlp, nerdtree, etc

Vim philosophy never contained "batteries included" like python does. If you want them out-of-the-box you have to use things like janus and it is good. Integrating them into the core will badly hit their competitors and I definitely not willing to see ctrlp in the core since I use Command-T and saw ctrlp source code.

> * ability to renumber buffer numbers. This enhancement alone I would pay for.

After I started using Command-T I nearly never use buffer numbers (except for the plugins). And doing this will introduce a huge amount of bugs because nearly *every* plugin that deals with buffers assumes that buffers cannot be renumbered.

> * concept of window-local buffers and tab-local buffers

You can emulate it to some extent. I would rather request API for digging deeper into vim core to emulate it to greater extent if you need. Never saw a need for such a thing since switching buffers with Command-T is pretty fast.

> * similar to window location list, a window header list that sits on top of the window. Plugins like bufexplorer could show window local buffers in this header

Better to add events like WinMovePre/WinMovePost so that one can emulate sticking to window anywhere he needs and not only to the top. Also note that as quickfix window with locations list is mostly a regular window it can be moved anywhere from the location it was opened (including moving to the other tab, though it would render this window useless as far as I see).

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