Re: improving Vim - Kickstarter - brainstorming - goals - who wants to join?

Excerpts from Nikolay Pavlov's message of Mon Nov 25 18:55:56 +0100 2013:
> I do if there is and *may be no* python? Not all interpreters work on the
> same OS+arch combination vim does.
Then there will be no support - why bother?
Then Vim will be "an editor only" on those platforms. But honestly I
think moste people do use Vim on systems where most interpreters (like
python) are available, too.

Also pay attention that Vim already is a set of compromises.

Example 1:
if_ implementations seem to support therading (scheme), others
don't or don't do that well such as python. It works, but never call
back into Vim from a background Vim thread ..

Example 2: Mappings. In gvim some mappings are available which are not
in vim <m-*>

Yet nobody asked "what about console? Some mappings will not be
available".

If something is not implemented (such as rm -fr), you have to worry
about it in VimL- and VimL might be bad at it.

> Bram is creating some language which may or may not fit, do not remember
> the details right now though.
http://www.zimbu.org/

zimbu is about "everything is an object" and everything "has an
interface". While that's nice it prevents some kind of optimizations.
Some existing systems tend to either "allow optimizing everything" or
"nothing". The perfect system does not "write code", it describes code
which can than be transformed into whatever you need.
For the OO part I agree much with zimbu, however I'd also like to see a
functional/haskell/ocaml like part: everything is data, and at compile
time the compiler chooses the right code to operate on it using type
classes. If you don't have inheritance the difference should not be that
big.

Marc Weber

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