Re: improving Vim - Kickstarter - brainstorming - goals - who wants to join?

It seems odd to build a lot of these things into vim when excellent
solutions exist with more generic applications. You (Thiago) mention
already using tmux+vim, and I find that solves most of the issues you
list, and thus I'd find adding those to vim to be superfluous.

On 2013-12-02 23:13, Thiago Padilha wrote:
> - Multiple clients connected to the same vim instance would provide
> an easy way to have collaborative editing(like pair programming).

GNU screen and tmux both provide this functionality

http://www.howtoforge.com/sharing-terminal-sessions-with-tmux-and-screen

That way, I can not only screen-share my Vim session, but my terminal
commands for building/testing, as well as other shell stuff like
network, process & configuration management.

> - Vim running in a remote server with local GUI, without the
> security implications of X forwarding

Though I don't usually need a GUI (the terminal version does just
about everything I need), I find that using ssh's X-forwarding
securely does everything I need without having to open things up
broadly/dangerously via xhost.

> - Use vim as a terminal multiplexer for detaching from a remote
> server without closing the running programs.

As above, I recommend just using screen/tmux. Why duplicate the
behavior in Vim, without the ability to multiplex all apps like
screen/tmux already does?

> - This is actually a very particular use case of mine, but it
> should illustrate another scenario were it would be useful: I do
> all my development work inside a headless linux VM running in
> virtual box in a windows laptop. Having a client/server
> architecture would let me detach a windows-native client, save the
> VM state and restore everything later even across reboots. This is
> already how I work, except that I use a combination of TMUX,
> vcxsrv(windows port of xorg), urxvt and terminal vim. This would
> let me replace all those programs by vim.

Most of that seem to involve getting a GUI. With terminal vim,
that's just tmux and vim.

Maybe it's my grumpy-old-man stance, but I don't see them as issues
since they already have robust solutions that do far more than Vim
would encompass.

-tim


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