Re: Poll: What's good about plugin managers?

On Mar 24, 2014 11:22 PM, "Gary Johnson" <garyjohn@spocom.com> wrote:
>
> On 2014-03-24, LCD 47 wrote:
> > On 24 March 2014, Gary Johnson wrote:
> > > On 2014-03-24, Nikolay Pavlov wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mar 24, 2014 11:08 AM, "LCD 47" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 23 March 2014, ZyX wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > 13. Ability to list and remove unused plugins. Reason: it is
> > > > > > just convenient.  Low priority.
> > > > >
> > > > >     That would imply keeping stats about when each plugin is
> > > > > actually used.  A complicated, expensive, and tricky task, for
> > > > > very little gain.
> > > >
> > > > Simplest implementation is just taking a list of currently active
> > > > plugins and remove everything but them. VAM/Vundle/NeoBundle have
> > > > everything what is necessary to perform such a task. It is not so
> > > > easy for FHS-based installations, but it is easy to implement if you
> > > > just do not provide this functionality for this task.
> > >
> > > How do you know whether or not a plugin is "actually used"?
> >
> >     I believe that was answered just below the text you quoted:
> >
> > On 24 March 2014, Nikolay Pavlov wrote:
> > [...]
> > > And check out :scriptnames. Recording its output at VimLeave makes
> > > such functionality rather easy.
> > [...]
>
> I saw that, but it wasn't clear to me that that addressed item #13
> because I apparently misunderstood item #13.  I thought the idea was
> for the PM to determine which plugins the user actually made use of,
> that is, executed some part of their contents.  Instead, "used"
> meant "sourced".
>
> I'm sure I have a number of plugins that I always source but never
> actually "use".

This task is indeed too tricky and likely not possible without additional support on vim side.

>
> Regards,
> Gary
>
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