On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 14:39:31 +0300 Nikolay Pavlov <zyx.vim@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2015-10-11 11:36 GMT+03:00 Gevisz <gevisz@gmail.com>:
> > On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 00:15:00 +0200 Tony Mechelynck <antoine.mechelynck@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Gevisz <gevisz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 22:23:33 +1100 Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 06.10.15 01:01, Filype Pereira wrote:
> >> >> > So, I started reading a vim book and didn't get very far, when I stopped at this line:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > If you can't touch type, then go learn it and then come back to learn vim.
> >> >>
> >> >> What a load of bollocks!
> >> >>
> >> >> During three decades of earning a living developing software, I used
> >> >> vi/vim for the last quarter century without ever learning to touch type.
> >> >> OK, I use quite a few fingers, and it goes pretty fast, but I do need to
> >> >> look at the keyboard most of the time. That doesn't manifest as a
> >> >> practical problem, since the computers I've used have all been very good
> >> >> at remembering what I've typed, so I have no need to view the screen at
> >> >> more than infrequent intervals.
> >> >>
> >> >> One thing I've noticed is that where one values quality over quantity,
> >> >> it is the amount of thought that goes into a composition which matters,
> >> >> not how rapidly it was input, or whether the typist did it with his eyes
> >> >> closed.
> >> >
> >> > Completely agree and would throw the book after the phrase right into the trash bin.
> >> >
> >> > Unfortunately, I cannot boast that I use vim for a three decade, but I do use it
> >> > and I do type using computers for a quarter of century.
> >> >
> >> > When necessary, I type fast enough to do my job quickly but I never tried to learn
> >> > a touch typing and I should admit that for me it is already too late to learn it.
> >> >
> >> > Nevertheless, I do use a "blind typing" in the sense that I do not look into
> >> > the monitor when I type, only to the keyboard. I get used to this style yet
> >> > about 25 years ago trying to save my eyes from the ray monitors of that days.
> >> >
> >> > Usually, I type a whole sentence without looking into the monitor.
> >> >
> >> > It does not mean that I do not know my keyboard layout. I do know it and can type
> >> > in a complete darkness (but much more slowly, of course).
> >> >
> >> > My hands move over the keyboard almost automatically but I still need a little feedback
> >> > from my eyes to not hit "i" instead of "o" for example.
> >> >
> >> > In this connection I have only one inconvenience connected with the facts that
> >> > 1) I usually have to use 3 keyboard layouts at the same time switching between them with a hot key,
> >> > 2) it is impossible to have a "direct hot key switch" to a certain keyboard layout in Linux world.
> >> >
> >> > Because of that I have to remember all the time not only in which vim mode I am but also in which
> >> > keyboard layout I am and it is too much for me. As the result, I too often end up raising my eyes
> >> > to the monitor and finding out that I have typed the whole sentence in incorrect keybord layout. :(
> >> >
> >> > In such times I very much miss the good old MS DOS keyrus driver that could have been configured
> >> > to produce a pleasant "crimping" noise when typing in a cyrillic keyboard layout and nothing
> >> > when typing in Latin keyboard layout, for example.
> >> >
> >> > But the "direct hot key switch" could also help a lot in this situation.
> >> > Unfortunately, as far as I know, it is impossible in the Linux World.
> >> >
> >> > P.S. By a "direct hot key switch" I mean the hot key that switches directly to a certain
> >> > keyboard layout, not by circling through all the active ones.
> >> >
> >> > However, such a "direct hot key switch" is possible in Windows.
> >>
> >> In Vim (but only in Vim) I also use 3 keyboard layouts, and there I
> >> could, if I wanted, assign them to hotkeys, even though I'm on Linux:
> >> • Most of the time I use a Belgian AZERTY keyboard with international
> >> Latin letters, as shown at
> >> http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/other/keybbe.htm. This is my
> >> only keyboard layout outside Vim.
> >> • A significant minority of my time is spent typing Russian with one
> >> keymap. If I need Russian text outside Vim I use copy-paste from Vim
> >> to the other application.
> >> • Even less often, I use a different keymap for Arabic.
> >> Both of these keymaps are (more or less) "phonetic", i.e. e.g. hitting
> >> the b key produces the letter having the b sound in that alphabet. I
> >> provide additional letters by means of dead keys (keymap entries with
> >> a {lhs} of two characters).
> >
> > I use English and two Cyrillic keyboard layouts that cannot be regarded
> > "phonetic" with respect to the English one. That is why I have decided
> > that learning a touch typing is useless for me as I need to learn it
> > at least for two very different keyboard layouts, which is too much for me.
>
> I am typing Russian text in addition to English; and in order not to
> learn two keyboard layouts I simply create a plugin [translit3.vim][1]
> and now am always using English layout.
Thank you for the link to your plugin I will look at it as well but currently
I am already used to jcuken keyboard layout and do not want to "re-map"
my mechanical memory and switch to the phonetic layout.
> As an alternative you may want to mess with creating your own input method
> (like the ones used for inputting Chinese/Japanese texts which have way too
> much symbols in their language) which will do transliteration on lower level
> what will also work outside of Vim.
>
> [1]: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3056
>
> >
> >> It is enough for me to map the <F8> key to toggle the current keymap
> >> on and off in both Normal and Insert mode, and to have a custom
> >> statusline remind me which keymap (if any) is currently in use, but
> >> only when &l:iminsert == 1
> >
> >
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