Thursday, August 11, 2022

Re: New version of vim unsolicitedly sourcing defaults.vim?

Hi Tim, Bram,

In a "gradient minimalist" mode of vim, devoid of plugins, it might be interesting to have a file that contains the necessary facilities by default. In particular facilities, features allowing you to switch from this minimalist Vim mode to a more extensive mode including personal plugins and other functions...

As long as the defaults.vim file is in the same folder as $MYVIMRC, is the defaults.vim file sourced on Vim startup?

I personally need this functionnality :
in Vim minimalist  "degraded"    mode   :    defaults.vim  is the only  in $vim                    so facilities it is embedding are sourced
in Vim extended    "operational"  mode  :    both defaults.vim and _vimrc are in $vim,    so facilities _vimrc is embedding are sourced.

Is it possible Bram ?
Thank you
Nicolas

Le mercredi 10 août 2022 à 15:21:50 UTC+2, Tim Chase a écrit :
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 11:07:55AM +0100, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
>Tim Chase wrote:
>> Yep, as Yegappan found, this bug is tracking the issue at hand:
>>
>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=251420
>>
>> I've got a FreeBSD Bugzilla account and will follow up there.
[snip]
> An alternative would be to check if ~/.vimrc exists, and only load
> defaults.vim then. Then it's closer to what Vim normally does (but then
> the overrides may still confuse the user).

That's one of the solutions I proposed in that bug-tracking URL,
though it's complicated because it's not just a .vimrc but according
to docs, but it sounds like ~/.vim/vimrc or ~/_vimrc or ~/.exrc or
~/_exrc or $MYVIMRC or $VIMINIT or $VIM or $EXINIT might also prevent
defaults.vim from loading. And I'm not 100% certain that list is
complete.

So it sounds like it would require a big chained if-statement testing
filereadable() on all of those sources and only sourcing defaults.vim
if *none* of them exist.

-tim




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