Re: [VIM] Re: [VIM] Re: [VIM] Re: vim/colorschemes: Request For Comments

As replied to Romain, also the manual installation fails.

Walter

On Mon, 14 Feb 2022, Maxim Kim wrote:

> Hi Walter, looks like your vim/colorscheme installation is not "correct".
>
> Your `:verbose hi Normal` command shows that original murphy was used, not
> the one from vim/colorschemes.
>
> I can't tell anything about vundle as I don't use it, but the simplest way
> to install a "plugin" from github is to clone it into your
> `~/.vim/pack/bundle/start` directory ("bundle" is an arbitrary name here):
>
> git clone git@github.com:vim/colorschemes.git ~/.vim/pack/bundle/start/
>
> вторник, 15 февраля 2022 г. в 01:28:25 UTC+3, Walter Cazzola:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2022, Romain Lafourcade wrote:
>>
>>> @Walter Cazzola, could you do
>>>
>>> :verbose hi Normal
>>>
>>> and report back with the exact output?
>>
>> I get this:
>> :verbose hi Normal
>> Normal xxx ctermfg=121 ctermbg=0 guifg=lightgreen guibg=Black font=DejaVu
>> Sans Mono 10
>> Last set from /usr/share/vim/vim82/colors/murphy.vim line 14
>>
>> Walter
>>
>>> Le lundi 14 février 2022 à 11:03:34 UTC+1, Walter Cazzola a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Uhm, what should I notice? I'm using murphy in gvim and still I've to
>> use
>>>> CSApprox to have it behaving closely in a terminal. Maybe I'm doing
>>>> something
>>>> wrong. I used vundle to install it.
>>>>
>>>> Walter
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2022, Lifepillar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-02-12, Romain Lafourcade <romainla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> thanks to the hard work of a small but motivated team, a
>>>>>> first milestone is finally within reach
>>>>>
>>>>> As a mostly passive observer of the development of this project, I feel
>>>>> compelled to thank you for undertaking this time-consuming task with
>>>>> invincible passion! I can testify that it was no mean feat.
>>>>>
>>>>>> - due to the _many_ inconsistencies plaguing the originals, we
>> generally
>>>>>> favored the _spirit_ to the _letter_ so the peachpuff remake (to
>> really
>>>>>> pick a random example) _is not the original peachpuff_; it still
>> retains
>>>>>> much of what made peachpuff peachpuff but in a much more usable and
>>>>>> up-to-date package.
>>>>>
>>>>> Compatibility (with terminal and GUI environments, and with Vim's own
>>>>> highlighting definitions) has been greatly improved. This makes the
>> user
>>>>> experience so much better: to pick a random example, peachpuff used
>> only
>>>>> 0-15 colors in terminals, so activating it in 256-color capable
>>>>> terminals would leave the user wondering why it didn't look like
>>>>> peachpuff (or worse, why it looked completely different in different
>>>>> terminals). But the number of improvements is really huge.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again for setting the path forward and raising the bar for color
>>>>> schemes: hopefully, it will become now easier to add new ones, finally
>>>>> pushing forward https://github.com/vim/vim/issues/1665. Personally,
>> I'd
>>>>> like to see a joint effort to produce an original and fresh color
>> scheme
>>>>> created specifically for Vim (9?), in the same way as some other
>> editors
>>>>> have "their own" branding color scheme. But maybe this is wishful
>>>>> thinking...
>>>>>
>>>>> Life.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Walter Cazzola, PhD, Associate Professor, Computer Science, Univ. of
>> Milano
>>>> caz...@di.unimi.it @w_cazzola Ph: +39 02 503 16300 HP:
>> cazzola.di.unimi.it
>>>> · · · ---------------------------- · · · ---------------------------- ·
>> · ·
>>>> ... recursive: adjective, see recursive ...
>>>> · · · ---------------------------- · · · ---------------------------- ·
>> · ·
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Walter Cazzola, PhD, Associate Professor, Computer Science, Univ. of Milano
>> caz...@di.unimi.it @w_cazzola Ph: +39 02 503 16300 HP: cazzola.di.unimi.it
>> · · · ---------------------------- · · · ---------------------------- · · ·
>> ... recursive: adjective, see recursive ...
>> · · · ---------------------------- · · · ---------------------------- · · ·
>>
>
>

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Re: [VIM] Re: [VIM] Re: [VIM] Re: vim/colorschemes: Request For Comments

Hi
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022, Romain Lafourcade wrote:

> @Walter, your murphy is still the built-in one so I suspect either a flawed
> installation of the vim/colorscheme package or a bug in your plugin manager.
>
> Could you try the :help package method instead?
>
> 1. Create this directory hierarchy:
>
> $ mkdir -p ~/.vim/pack/colors/start/
>
> 2. Get the project in there:
>
> $ cd ~/.vim/pack/colors/start
> $ git clone https://github.com/vim/colorschemes.git
>
> 3. This should give you this:
>
> ~/.vim/pack/colors/start/colorschemes
>
> which should put the remade colorscheme before the original one in
> runtimepath.
>
> Le mardi 15 février 2022 à 04:43:12 UTC+1, Charles Campbell a écrit :

I installed it as you suggest. Now in my .vim I have:

pack
└── colors
└── start
└── colorschemes
├── colors
│   ├── blue.vim
│   ├── darkblue.vim
│   ├── delek.vim
│   ├── desert.vim
│   ├── elflord.vim
│   ├── evening.vim
│   ├── industry.vim
│   ├── koehler.vim
│   ├── morning.vim
│   ├── murphy.vim
│   ├── pablo.vim
│   ├── peachpuff.vim
│   ├── README.txt
│   ├── ron.vim
│   ├── shine.vim
│   ├── slate.vim
│   ├── tools
│   │   ├── check_colors.vim
│   │   ├── sample_base.vim
│   │   ├── sample_diff.vim
│   │   ├── sample_messages.vim
│   │   └── sample_popupmenu.vim
│   ├── torte.vim
│   └── zellner.vim
├── colortemplate
│   ├── blue.colortemplate
│   ├── darkblue.colortemplate
│   ├── delek.colortemplate
│   ├── desert.colortemplate
│   ├── _diff
│   ├── elflord.colortemplate
│   ├── evening.colortemplate
│   ├── industry.colortemplate
│   ├── koehler.colortemplate
│   ├── morning.colortemplate
│   ├── murphy.colortemplate
│   ├── pablo.colortemplate
│   ├── peachpuff.colortemplate
│   ├── ron.colortemplate
│   ├── shine.colortemplate
│   ├── slate.colortemplate
│   ├── _tcozero
│   ├── torte.colortemplate
│   └── zellner.colortemplate
└── README.md

that it is exactly what I had before under bundle (it is where vundle puts the
installed packages).

Anyway nothing has changed and I still see the style rendered differently in
the GUI and in the terminal.

The value read by : verbose didn't change:

:verbose hi Normal
Normal xxx ctermfg=121 ctermbg=0 guifg=lightgreen guibg=Black
Last set from /usr/share/vim/vim82/colors/murphy.vim line 14

So the issue is not bound to vundle.

Walter

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Re: [VIM] Re: [VIM] Re: [VIM] Re: vim/colorschemes: Request For Comments

On Mon, 14 Feb 2022, Charles Campbell wrote:

> Walter Cazzola wrote:

>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2022, Maxim Kim wrote:

>>> It should be identical in gvim and tui vim with t_Co=256:

>>> [image: 2022-02-14_13-40-35.png]

>> How I should set/check for this? I do not have t_Co neither as an
>> environment variable nor in vim.

> Bring up vim; then type  :echo &t_Co

Ok, it says: 256 in the terminal and 16777216 in gvim

Walter

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Re: [VIM] Re: [VIM] Re: vim/colorschemes: Request For Comments

@Walter, your murphy is still the built-in one so I suspect either a flawed installation of the vim/colorscheme package or a bug in your plugin manager.

Could you try the :help package method instead?

1. Create this directory hierarchy:

       $ mkdir -p ~/.vim/pack/colors/start/

2. Get the project in there:

       $ cd ~/.vim/pack/colors/start

       $ git clone https://github.com/vim/colorschemes.git

3. This should give you this:

       ~/.vim/pack/colors/start/colorschemes

   which should put the remade colorscheme before the original one in runtimepath.

Le mardi 15 février 2022 à 04:43:12 UTC+1, Charles Campbell a écrit :

Walter Cazzola wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2022, Maxim Kim wrote:
>
>> Hi Walter,
>>
>> It should be identical in gvim and tui vim with t_Co=256:
>>
>> [image: 2022-02-14_13-40-35.png]
>
> How I should set/check for this? I do not have t_Co neither as an
> environment
> variable nor in vim.
>
> Walter
Bring up vim; then type  :echo &t_Co

Chip Campbell

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Re: [VIM] Re: [VIM] Re: vim/colorschemes: Request For Comments

Hi Walter, looks like your vim/colorscheme installation is not "correct".

Your `:verbose hi Normal` command shows that original murphy was used, not the one from vim/colorschemes.

I can't tell anything about vundle as I don't use it, but the simplest way to install a "plugin" from github is to clone it into your `~/.vim/pack/bundle/start` directory ("bundle" is an arbitrary name here):

git clone git@github.com:vim/colorschemes.git ~/.vim/pack/bundle/start/

вторник, 15 февраля 2022 г. в 01:28:25 UTC+3, Walter Cazzola:

Hi

On Mon, 14 Feb 2022, Romain Lafourcade wrote:

> @Walter Cazzola, could you do
>
> :verbose hi Normal
>
> and report back with the exact output?

I get this:
:verbose hi Normal
Normal xxx ctermfg=121 ctermbg=0 guifg=lightgreen guibg=Black font=DejaVu Sans Mono 10
Last set from /usr/share/vim/vim82/colors/murphy.vim line 14

Walter

> Le lundi 14 février 2022 à 11:03:34 UTC+1, Walter Cazzola a écrit :
>
>> Uhm, what should I notice? I'm using murphy in gvim and still I've to use
>> CSApprox to have it behaving closely in a terminal. Maybe I'm doing
>> something
>> wrong. I used vundle to install it.
>>
>> Walter
>>
>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2022, Lifepillar wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-02-12, Romain Lafourcade <romainla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> thanks to the hard work of a small but motivated team, a
>>>> first milestone is finally within reach
>>>
>>> As a mostly passive observer of the development of this project, I feel
>>> compelled to thank you for undertaking this time-consuming task with
>>> invincible passion! I can testify that it was no mean feat.
>>>
>>>> - due to the _many_ inconsistencies plaguing the originals, we generally
>>>> favored the _spirit_ to the _letter_ so the peachpuff remake (to really
>>>> pick a random example) _is not the original peachpuff_; it still retains
>>>> much of what made peachpuff peachpuff but in a much more usable and
>>>> up-to-date package.
>>>
>>> Compatibility (with terminal and GUI environments, and with Vim's own
>>> highlighting definitions) has been greatly improved. This makes the user
>>> experience so much better: to pick a random example, peachpuff used only
>>> 0-15 colors in terminals, so activating it in 256-color capable
>>> terminals would leave the user wondering why it didn't look like
>>> peachpuff (or worse, why it looked completely different in different
>>> terminals). But the number of improvements is really huge.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for setting the path forward and raising the bar for color
>>> schemes: hopefully, it will become now easier to add new ones, finally
>>> pushing forward https://github.com/vim/vim/issues/1665. Personally, I'd
>>> like to see a joint effort to produce an original and fresh color scheme
>>> created specifically for Vim (9?), in the same way as some other editors
>>> have "their own" branding color scheme. But maybe this is wishful
>>> thinking...
>>>
>>> Life.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Walter Cazzola, PhD, Associate Professor, Computer Science, Univ. of Milano
>> caz...@di.unimi.it @w_cazzola Ph: +39 02 503 16300 HP: cazzola.di.unimi.it
>> · · · ---------------------------- · · · ---------------------------- · · ·
>> ... recursive: adjective, see recursive ...
>> · · · ---------------------------- · · · ---------------------------- · · ·
>>
>
>

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Re: [VIM] Re: [VIM] Re: vim/colorschemes: Request For Comments

Walter Cazzola wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2022, Maxim Kim wrote:
>
>> Hi Walter,
>>
>> It should be identical in gvim and tui vim with t_Co=256:
>>
>> [image: 2022-02-14_13-40-35.png]
>
> How I should set/check for this? I do not have t_Co neither as an
> environment
> variable nor in vim.
>
> Walter
Bring up vim; then type  :echo &t_Co

Chip Campbell

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Re: [VIM] Re: [VIM] Re: vim/colorschemes: Request For Comments

Hi

On Mon, 14 Feb 2022, Maxim Kim wrote:

> Hi Walter,
>
> It should be identical in gvim and tui vim with t_Co=256:
>
> [image: 2022-02-14_13-40-35.png]

How I should set/check for this? I do not have t_Co neither as an environment
variable nor in vim.

Walter

>
> понедельник, 14 февраля 2022 г. в 13:03:34 UTC+3, Walter Cazzola:
>
>> Uhm, what should I notice? I'm using murphy in gvim and still I've to use
>> CSApprox to have it behaving closely in a terminal. Maybe I'm doing
>> something
>> wrong. I used vundle to install it.
>>
>> Walter
>>
>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2022, Lifepillar wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-02-12, Romain Lafourcade <romainla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> thanks to the hard work of a small but motivated team, a
>>>> first milestone is finally within reach
>>>
>>> As a mostly passive observer of the development of this project, I feel
>>> compelled to thank you for undertaking this time-consuming task with
>>> invincible passion! I can testify that it was no mean feat.
>>>
>>>> - due to the _many_ inconsistencies plaguing the originals, we generally
>>>> favored the _spirit_ to the _letter_ so the peachpuff remake (to really
>>>> pick a random example) _is not the original peachpuff_; it still retains
>>>> much of what made peachpuff peachpuff but in a much more usable and
>>>> up-to-date package.
>>>
>>> Compatibility (with terminal and GUI environments, and with Vim's own
>>> highlighting definitions) has been greatly improved. This makes the user
>>> experience so much better: to pick a random example, peachpuff used only
>>> 0-15 colors in terminals, so activating it in 256-color capable
>>> terminals would leave the user wondering why it didn't look like
>>> peachpuff (or worse, why it looked completely different in different
>>> terminals). But the number of improvements is really huge.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for setting the path forward and raising the bar for color
>>> schemes: hopefully, it will become now easier to add new ones, finally
>>> pushing forward https://github.com/vim/vim/issues/1665. Personally, I'd
>>> like to see a joint effort to produce an original and fresh color scheme
>>> created specifically for Vim (9?), in the same way as some other editors
>>> have "their own" branding color scheme. But maybe this is wishful
>>> thinking...
>>>
>>> Life.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Walter Cazzola, PhD, Associate Professor, Computer Science, Univ. of Milano
>> caz...@di.unimi.it @w_cazzola Ph: +39 02 503 16300 HP: cazzola.di.unimi.it
>> · · · ---------------------------- · · · ---------------------------- · · ·
>> ... recursive: adjective, see recursive ...
>> · · · ---------------------------- · · · ---------------------------- · · ·
>>
>
>

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