On 25/08/13 23:15, Nikolay Pavlov wrote:
>
> On Aug 26, 2013 1:00 AM, "Thomas E. Dickey" <dickey@his.com
> <mailto:dickey@his.com>> wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday, August 25, 2013 4:10:44 PM UTC-4, Michael Henry wrote:
> > > On 08/25/2013 02:16 PM, Nikolay Pavlov wrote:
> > >
> > > > TERM=konsole and TERM=konsole-256color are contained in my
> > > > terminfo database, seem to work fine with konsole and can be
> > > > configured in profiles/environment variables. To my surprise,
> > > > files in /usr/share/terminfo regarding konsole were installed
> > > > by ncurses and not by konsole, but it appears that *all* other
> > > > entries there except for fbterm come from sys-libs/ncurses. So
> > > > I can't say whether using such non-standard $TERM is fine, but
> > > > I do use it (-256color variant).
> >
> > I wrote them. None of the GNOME or KDE developers have contributed
> > that I recall to any of the terminal descriptions that are relevant.
> >
> > > > Note that konsole is the only terminal I know that supports
> > > > true color. Using non-standard $TERM makes me able to
> > > > recognize konsole and enable true color support in some
> > > > applications (i.e. vim, there is a patch for this lying
> > > > somewhere, search for 'guicolors').
> >
> > as the stackoverflow link comments, xterm recognizes the escape
> > sequence and matches it against its palette. (Reading konsole's
> > code, it seems that it does the same thing - ymmv)
>
> I know about xterm. About konsole: I checked true color support by using
> screenshots and it works as expected. I doubt there may be colors
> 000000, 000001 and 000002 in palette (except for the first one, of
> course). Konsole version is 4.10.4.
I suppose you mean KDE version? Clicking "Help → About Konsole" gives
me: Konsole 2.8.5, Using KDE Development Platform 4.10.5 "release 4".
There might be a slightly newer version available, but I'd bet not by
*two* major releases.
>
> > >
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6403744/are-there-terminals-that-support-true-color
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > They mention only Konsole as having true color, and a tiny bit
> > > more searching on my part doesn't turn up anything else (other
> > > than another terminal based on Konsole). If you want true
> > > color, you may have to live with Konsole (though you could
> > > certainly do worse).
> >
> > no... see the comment by Tangent 128. xterm patch #282 implements
> > the sequence as noted above.
>
> Taking color from 8-bit palette is not something I may call "true color
> support".
>
> > > You may find, however, that some things don't work quite right
> > > now that Konsole sends xterm-compatible keycodes. The "konsole"
> >
> > Testing konsole 2.10.5 on Fedora19, I see that it does not.
> > It matches the "konsole" entry which I wrote.
> >
> > That's probably the most recent copy of konsole that I can test.
> >
> > > entry in terminfo matches an older version of Konsole, so
> > > programs that use terminfo to determine what to expect will be
> > > unable to recognize the keys.
> >
> > Now that I'm reminded, I can retest and see if another change crept in
> > (when I see a newer version of konsole).
> >
> > > Basically, since modern Konsole is trying to emulate xterm,
> > > TERM=xterm is a closer match to the actual behavior than the old
> > > TERM=konsole entry.
> >
> > Both konsole and gnome-terminal have been pretty stagnant for several
> years.
> > Both have had as a goal, to "emulate xterm" for more than ten years,
> > but have not made progress on that.
> >
Best regards,
Tony.
--
It was kinda like stuffing the wrong card in a computer, when you're
stickin' those artificial stimulants in your arm.
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