On Aug 26, 2013 1:35 AM, "Tony Mechelynck" <antoine.mechelynck@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 25/08/13 23:15, Nikolay Pavlov wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2013 1:00 AM, "Thomas E. Dickey" <dickey@his.com
>> <mailto:dickey@his.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Sunday, August 25, 2013 4:10:44 PM UTC-4, Michael Henry wrote:
>> > > On 08/25/2013 02:16 PM, Nikolay Pavlov wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > TERM=konsole and TERM=konsole-256color are contained in my
>> > > > terminfo database, seem to work fine with konsole and can be
>> > > > configured in profiles/environment variables. To my surprise,
>> > > > files in /usr/share/terminfo regarding konsole were installed
>> > > > by ncurses and not by konsole, but it appears that *all* other
>> > > > entries there except for fbterm come from sys-libs/ncurses. So
>> > > > I can't say whether using such non-standard $TERM is fine, but
>> > > > I do use it (-256color variant).
>> >
>> > I wrote them. None of the GNOME or KDE developers have contributed
>> > that I recall to any of the terminal descriptions that are relevant.
>> >
>> > > > Note that konsole is the only terminal I know that supports
>> > > > true color. Using non-standard $TERM makes me able to
>> > > > recognize konsole and enable true color support in some
>> > > > applications (i.e. vim, there is a patch for this lying
>> > > > somewhere, search for 'guicolors').
>> >
>> > as the stackoverflow link comments, xterm recognizes the escape
>> > sequence and matches it against its palette. (Reading konsole's
>> > code, it seems that it does the same thing - ymmv)
>>
>> I know about xterm. About konsole: I checked true color support by using
>> screenshots and it works as expected. I doubt there may be colors
>> 000000, 000001 and 000002 in palette (except for the first one, of
>> course). Konsole version is 4.10.4.
>
>
> I suppose you mean KDE version? Clicking "Help → About Konsole" gives me: Konsole 2.8.5, Using KDE Development Platform 4.10.5 "release 4". There might be a slightly newer version available, but I'd bet not by *two* major releases.
This is the version reported by package manager. I have posted konsole --version output.
Wondering why when checking version you all use about? Package manager holds all versions of all software and it is guaranteed to report it, while "about", --version flag or any other variant may be absent.
>>
>> > >
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6403744/are-there-terminals-that-support-true-color
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > They mention only Konsole as having true color, and a tiny bit
>> > > more searching on my part doesn't turn up anything else (other
>> > > than another terminal based on Konsole). If you want true
>> > > color, you may have to live with Konsole (though you could
>> > > certainly do worse).
>> >
>> > no... see the comment by Tangent 128. xterm patch #282 implements
>> > the sequence as noted above.
>>
>> Taking color from 8-bit palette is not something I may call "true color
>> support".
>>
>> > > You may find, however, that some things don't work quite right
>> > > now that Konsole sends xterm-compatible keycodes. The "konsole"
>> >
>> > Testing konsole 2.10.5 on Fedora19, I see that it does not.
>> > It matches the "konsole" entry which I wrote.
>> >
>> > That's probably the most recent copy of konsole that I can test.
>> >
>> > > entry in terminfo matches an older version of Konsole, so
>> > > programs that use terminfo to determine what to expect will be
>> > > unable to recognize the keys.
>> >
>> > Now that I'm reminded, I can retest and see if another change crept in
>> > (when I see a newer version of konsole).
>> >
>> > > Basically, since modern Konsole is trying to emulate xterm,
>> > > TERM=xterm is a closer match to the actual behavior than the old
>> > > TERM=konsole entry.
>> >
>> > Both konsole and gnome-terminal have been pretty stagnant for several
>> years.
>> > Both have had as a goal, to "emulate xterm" for more than ten years,
>> > but have not made progress on that.
>> >
>
>
> Best regards,
> Tony.
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