Thursday, March 8, 2018

Re: bugs?

I apologize...

<C-K> in (:set) nohlsearch, opened the
help in the command :nohlsearch, not the
option.

Tired I guess... Gonna rest.

BTW. found an 'exclude post' option in the:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/vim_use/SDaInEL82nM
Does it work? Should I exclude these last 3 messages?

best,
r.


Em quinta-feira, 8 de março de 2018 09:53:32 UTC-3, Renato Fabbri escreveu:
> oh, it is an error in the help files:
>
>
> :noh[lsearch]
> gives error until :nohls
>
>
> (the same questions hold)
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:50 AM, Renato Fabbri <renato.fabbri@gmail.com> wrote:
> (screenshot attached.)
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>
>
> option 'noh' not highlighted as expected.
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>
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> other options related to the
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> [''vimSet'', [''vimOption'', ''PreProc'']]'
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> highlighting groups while
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> noh is only related to
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> [''vimSet'']'
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>
>
> Is this information relevant?
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> Is this the right place to post this kind
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> of 'problem'?
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> Is it considered a problem?
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>
>
> best,
>
> r.
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>
>
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> Em quarta-feira, 7 de março de 2018 22:16:58 UTC-3, Renato Fabbri  escreveu:
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> > Em terça-feira, 27 de fevereiro de 2018 15:08:21 UTC-3, Christian Brabandt  escreveu:
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> > > On Di, 27 Feb 2018, Renato Fabbri wrote:
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> > >
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> > > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 4:06 PM, Bram Moolenaar <Bram@moolenaar.net> wrote:
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> > > >
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> > > >
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> > > >     Renato Fabbri wrote:
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> > > >
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> > > >     > Would you call these bugs?
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> > > >     >
>
> > > >     > 1)
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> > > >     > vim script (vimL) syntax highlighting highlights on (:only) as an option
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> > > >     > value, e.g.
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> > > >     > if a ==# 'banana'
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> > > >     >   on
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> > > >     > en
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> > > >
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> > > >     Doesn't happen for me.
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> > > >
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> > > >
>
> > > > Thanks. I could not reproduce it either, maybe context dependent
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> > > > or a previously messy .vim tree.
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> > > > But I found other things as such (that's why I made this thread and item 1).
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> > > > Just tested this one:
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> > > >
>
> > > > if 1==2
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> > > >   ec 'x'
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> > > >   en (<--- this guy only unindent when I put the d at the end. I write d and
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> > > > delete it. And abbrev might resolve, but...)
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> > >
>
> > > Yes, because the end keyword triggers reindentation. That is mostly a
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> > > good thing. If you don't want that, disable indent scripts.
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> > >
>
> > > >     > 2)
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> > > >     > termguicolors was (AFAIU) mostly or only for GUI, including the
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> > > >     > colorscheme gui= guibg= and guibf= settings....
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> > > >     > in terminal vim, if you set termguicolors, you loose the
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> > > >     > SpellBad visual cue, which entail an impaired spell check.
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> > > >     > One have to execute
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> > > >     > :hi SpellBad cterm=undercurl
>
> > > >     > to achieve what is probably desired by Vim developers.
>
> > > >
>
> > > >     That's a tricky one.  When 'termguicolors' was introduced the idea was
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> > > >     to keep using the cterm attributes and only get the colors from guifg
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> > > >     and guibg.  But for this highlight that doesn't work.  And I don't see a
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> > > >     workaround.
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> > > >
>
> > > >     We could add the "termgui" attributes, which would then only be used
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> > > >     when 'termguicolors' is set.  I don't like adding another attribute
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> > > >     though.
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> > > >
>
> > > >     Another solution would be to not use the GUI colors if there aren't any.
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> > > >     Maybe a bit inconsistent, but it would work.
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> > >
>
> > > I think this is fixed with
>
> > > https://github.com/vim/vim/releases/tag/v8.0.1544
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> > >
>
> > > > I was not able to follow you on this sentence:
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> > > > "Another solution would be to not use the GUI colors if there aren't any."
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> > > > When I try, I touch the void.
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> > >
>
> > > That means, if there is highlighting group that has no Gui attributes,
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> > > use the terminal colors and I think that is what the patch mentioned
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> > > above does.
>
> > >
>
> > > > Some reasons which I came across:
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> > > > - If I am using opt/ (or packs in general) to organize things, load this and
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> > > > not that,
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> > > > some after/ commands might be only for stuff x (plugin, workflow, experiments
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> > > > etc).
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> > >
>
> > > I do not get that one.
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> > >
>
> > > > - If I want to assure that such commands are executed with as much of the final
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> > > > context as possible.,
>
> > > > but don't fell convenient to make a function with them, and run them
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> > > > afterwards, nor detach
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> > > > them from the associated file tree.
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> > >
>
> > > Neither do I understand that one. What kind of context are you talking
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> > > about?
>
> > >
>
> > > > - Non-default settings.
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> > > > I am trying to move away from these after/ files, but they are too convenient,
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> > > > so I repeatedly find myself sourcing these after files by hand.
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> > >
>
> > > Non-default settings are not a reason for after/ files. plugins should
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> > > work with whatever setting you have set (which might include giving
>
> > > error messages). But I don't see how the after/ directory comes into
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> > > this one.
>
> > >
>
> > > > - One might clone a plugin repo (the whole tree) into pack/xx/(start/ or opt/),
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> > > > and be happy with loading auto or keeping things lean and
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> > > > having an easy way to loading it if wanted.
>
> > > > Fantastic weather, but there is a catch: if the tree has an after/ dir, you
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> > > > keep
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> > > > the whole tree in opt/ but copy the after files into the working after (usually
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> > > > .vim/after).
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> > >
>
> > > Why would a plugin directory have a after directory? That is mostly for
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> > > the users convenience. If a plugin needs a functionality it can simply
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> > > put it in plugin/
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> > >
>
> > > > If you cloned into opt/, not executing packadd in vimrc might raise errors.
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> > >
>
> > > Not calling packadd should mean the whole directory not added to the
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> > > runtime path. That would not raise an error.
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> >
>
> > if you put : cal PLUGINXDoThat() in after/
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> > but did not execute :pa pluginx,
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> > that will function call will raise na error.
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> >
>
> > tx for the other answers, they really helped me get the context.
>
> >
>
> > As soon as I have something more substantial, i might post back so
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> > the points get clear. For now:
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> > https://github.com/ttm/prv
>
> > (ongoing work)
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> > > > I get that in the manual most often (or always?) a "plugin" is considered
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> > > > a one file add-on that stays in plugin/.
>
> > > > In practice, as Vimball allows and we all make them, plugins are very often
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> > > > file trees in the template decribed at  :h 'rtp'.
>
> > > > Right? (I am really asking, of course)
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> > >
>
> > > Yes that's what plugins nowadays consist of. The times of single plugin
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> > > files are over for about 10 years now.
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> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Best,
>
> > > Christian
>
> > > --
>
> > > Wie man sein Kind nicht nennen sollte:
>
> > >   Karl Ender
>
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