I apologize...
<C-K> in (:set) nohlsearch, opened the
help in the command :nohlsearch, not the
option.
Tired I guess... Gonna rest.
BTW. found an 'exclude post' option in the:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/vim_use/SDaInEL82nM
Does it work? Should I exclude these last 3 messages?
best,
r.
Em quinta-feira, 8 de março de 2018 09:53:32 UTC-3, Renato Fabbri  escreveu:
> oh, it is an error in the help files:
> 
> 
> :noh[lsearch]
> gives error until :nohls
> 
> 
> (the same questions hold)
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:50 AM, Renato Fabbri <renato.fabbri@gmail.com> wrote:
> (screenshot attached.)
> 
> 
> 
> option 'noh' not highlighted as expected.
> 
> 
> 
> other options related to the
> 
> [''vimSet'', [''vimOption'', ''PreProc'']]'
> 
> highlighting groups while
> 
> noh is only related to
> 
> [''vimSet'']'
> 
> 
> 
> Is this information relevant?
> 
> Is this the right place to post this kind
> 
> of 'problem'?
> 
> Is it considered a problem?
> 
> 
> 
> best,
> 
> r.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Em quarta-feira, 7 de março de 2018 22:16:58 UTC-3, Renato Fabbri  escreveu:
> 
> > Em terça-feira, 27 de fevereiro de 2018 15:08:21 UTC-3, Christian Brabandt  escreveu:
> 
> > > On Di, 27 Feb 2018, Renato Fabbri wrote:
> 
> > >
> 
> > > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 4:06 PM, Bram Moolenaar <Bram@moolenaar.net> wrote:
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >     Renato Fabbri wrote:
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >     > Would you call these bugs?
> 
> > > >     >
> 
> > > >     > 1)
> 
> > > >     > vim script (vimL) syntax highlighting highlights on (:only) as an option
> 
> > > >     > value, e.g.
> 
> > > >     > if a ==# 'banana'
> 
> > > >     >   on
> 
> > > >     > en
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >     Doesn't happen for me.
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > Thanks. I could not reproduce it either, maybe context dependent
> 
> > > > or a previously messy .vim tree.
> 
> > > > But I found other things as such (that's why I made this thread and item 1).
> 
> > > > Just tested this one:
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > if 1==2
> 
> > > >   ec 'x'
> 
> > > >   en (<--- this guy only unindent when I put the d at the end. I write d and
> 
> > > > delete it. And abbrev might resolve, but...)
> 
> > >
> 
> > > Yes, because the end keyword triggers reindentation. That is mostly a
> 
> > > good thing. If you don't want that, disable indent scripts.
> 
> > >
> 
> > > >     > 2)
> 
> > > >     > termguicolors was (AFAIU) mostly or only for GUI, including the
> 
> > > >     > colorscheme gui= guibg= and guibf= settings....
> 
> > > >     > in terminal vim, if you set termguicolors, you loose the
> 
> > > >     > SpellBad visual cue, which entail an impaired spell check.
> 
> > > >     > One have to execute
> 
> > > >     > :hi SpellBad cterm=undercurl
> 
> > > >     > to achieve what is probably desired by Vim developers.
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >     That's a tricky one.  When 'termguicolors' was introduced the idea was
> 
> > > >     to keep using the cterm attributes and only get the colors from guifg
> 
> > > >     and guibg.  But for this highlight that doesn't work.  And I don't see a
> 
> > > >     workaround.
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >     We could add the "termgui" attributes, which would then only be used
> 
> > > >     when 'termguicolors' is set.  I don't like adding another attribute
> 
> > > >     though.
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >     Another solution would be to not use the GUI colors if there aren't any.
> 
> > > >     Maybe a bit inconsistent, but it would work.
> 
> > >
> 
> > > I think this is fixed with
> 
> > > https://github.com/vim/vim/releases/tag/v8.0.1544
> 
> > >
> 
> > > > I was not able to follow you on this sentence:
> 
> > > > "Another solution would be to not use the GUI colors if there aren't any."
> 
> > > > When I try, I touch the void.
> 
> > >
> 
> > > That means, if there is highlighting group that has no Gui attributes,
> 
> > > use the terminal colors and I think that is what the patch mentioned
> 
> > > above does.
> 
> > >
> 
> > > > Some reasons which I came across:
> 
> > > > - If I am using opt/ (or packs in general) to organize things, load this and
> 
> > > > not that,
> 
> > > > some after/ commands might be only for stuff x (plugin, workflow, experiments
> 
> > > > etc).
> 
> > >
> 
> > > I do not get that one.
> 
> > >
> 
> > > > - If I want to assure that such commands are executed with as much of the final
> 
> > > > context as possible.,
> 
> > > > but don't fell convenient to make a function with them, and run them
> 
> > > > afterwards, nor detach
> 
> > > > them from the associated file tree.
> 
> > >
> 
> > > Neither do I understand that one. What kind of context are you talking
> 
> > > about?
> 
> > >
> 
> > > > - Non-default settings.
> 
> > > > I am trying to move away from these after/ files, but they are too convenient,
> 
> > > > so I repeatedly find myself sourcing these after files by hand.
> 
> > >
> 
> > > Non-default settings are not a reason for after/ files. plugins should
> 
> > > work with whatever setting you have set (which might include giving
> 
> > > error messages). But I don't see how the after/ directory comes into
> 
> > > this one.
> 
> > >
> 
> > > > - One might clone a plugin repo (the whole tree) into pack/xx/(start/ or opt/),
> 
> > > > and be happy with loading auto or keeping things lean and
> 
> > > > having an easy way to loading it if wanted.
> 
> > > > Fantastic weather, but there is a catch: if the tree has an after/ dir, you
> 
> > > > keep
> 
> > > > the whole tree in opt/ but copy the after files into the working after (usually
> 
> > > > .vim/after).
> 
> > >
> 
> > > Why would a plugin directory have a after directory? That is mostly for
> 
> > > the users convenience. If a plugin needs a functionality it can simply
> 
> > > put it in plugin/
> 
> > >
> 
> > > > If you cloned into opt/, not executing packadd in vimrc might raise errors.
> 
> > >
> 
> > > Not calling packadd should mean the whole directory not added to the
> 
> > > runtime path. That would not raise an error.
> 
> >
> 
> > if you put : cal PLUGINXDoThat() in after/
> 
> > but did not execute :pa pluginx,
> 
> > that will function call will raise na error.
> 
> >
> 
> > tx for the other answers, they really helped me get the context.
> 
> >
> 
> > As soon as I have something more substantial, i might post back so
> 
> > the points get clear. For now:
> 
> > https://github.com/ttm/prv
> 
> > (ongoing work)
> 
> >
> 
> > >
> 
> > > > I get that in the manual most often (or always?) a "plugin" is considered
> 
> > > > a one file add-on that stays in plugin/.
> 
> > > > In practice, as Vimball allows and we all make them, plugins are very often
> 
> > > > file trees in the template decribed at  :h 'rtp'.
> 
> > > > Right? (I am really asking, of course)
> 
> > >
> 
> > > Yes that's what plugins nowadays consist of. The times of single plugin
> 
> > > files are over for about 10 years now.
> 
> > >
> 
> > >
> 
> > > Best,
> 
> > > Christian
> 
> > > --
> 
> > > Wie man sein Kind nicht nennen sollte:
> 
> > >   Karl Ender
> 
> 
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