Manas <manas18244@iiitd.ac.in> wrote:
> > > $ time vim -cq
> > >
> > > real 0m0.396s
> > > user 0m0.346s
> > > sys 0m0.047s
It seems a bit slow.
For me on xubuntu-22.04 (i7-8700K):
$ time vim -cq
real 0m0.129s
user 0m0.106s
sys 0m0.023s
and on macOS-13.4.1 (M1):
$ time vim -cq
real 0m0.109s
user 0m0.071s
sys 0m0.022s
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Re: Improving vim startuptime
hi,
On Sun, 16 Jul 2023 at 21:40, Manas <manas18244@iiitd.ac.in> wrote:
> ...
> But still yours is at 64ms and mine at 200ms. ...
> Compilation: gcc -c -I. -Iproto -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DFEAT_GUI_GTK -I/usr/include/gtk-3.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/sysprof-4 -I/usr/include/harfbuzz -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng16 -I/usr/include/libmount -I/usr/include/blkid -I/usr/include/fribidi -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0 -I/usr/include/cloudproviders -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/at-spi2-atk/2.0 -I/usr/include/at-spi-2.0 -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include -pthread -march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fno-plt -fexceptions -Wformat -Werror=format-security -fstack-clash-protection -fcf-protection -g -ffile-prefix-map=/build/vim/src=/usr/src/debug/vim -flto=auto -D_REENTRANT -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=1
long shot. I have noticed (or so I think, never sat down to .. time
things :-)) that programs appear to start up a little faster when
compiled with the '-fPIC' flag ? (may, of course, be just an artefact
of the machine's configuration)
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2023 at 21:40, Manas <manas18244@iiitd.ac.in> wrote:
> ...
> But still yours is at 64ms and mine at 200ms. ...
> Compilation: gcc -c -I. -Iproto -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DFEAT_GUI_GTK -I/usr/include/gtk-3.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/sysprof-4 -I/usr/include/harfbuzz -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng16 -I/usr/include/libmount -I/usr/include/blkid -I/usr/include/fribidi -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0 -I/usr/include/cloudproviders -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/at-spi2-atk/2.0 -I/usr/include/at-spi-2.0 -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include -pthread -march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fno-plt -fexceptions -Wformat -Werror=format-security -fstack-clash-protection -fcf-protection -g -ffile-prefix-map=/build/vim/src=/usr/src/debug/vim -flto=auto -D_REENTRANT -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=1
long shot. I have noticed (or so I think, never sat down to .. time
things :-)) that programs appear to start up a little faster when
compiled with the '-fPIC' flag ? (may, of course, be just an artefact
of the machine's configuration)
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Re: Improving vim startuptime
On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 12:08:46PM +0200, Christian Brabandt wrote:
>
> On Mo, 17 Jul 2023, Manas wrote:
>
> > $ time vim -cq
> >
> > real 0m0.396s
> > user 0m0.346s
> > sys 0m0.047s
>
> So now that you are at .3s startup time, is this okay or not?
It is okay but I am doing refactoring nonetheless.
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> On Mo, 17 Jul 2023, Manas wrote:
>
> > $ time vim -cq
> >
> > real 0m0.396s
> > user 0m0.346s
> > sys 0m0.047s
>
> So now that you are at .3s startup time, is this okay or not?
It is okay but I am doing refactoring nonetheless.
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Re: Improving vim startuptime
On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 12:06:55PM +0200, Christian Brabandt wrote:
> I have never heard about hyperfineน before, but it always seems to spawn
> a new shell and even so it is supposed to correct the shell spawning
> time, perhaps there is something going wrong? I would try using `-N` to
> disable the intermediate shell and probably open a new ticket about
> this.
>
Not spawing shell doesn't help either. Anyways I have filed a ticket.
https://github.com/sharkdp/hyperfine/issues/666
Also, previous logs are expired so I re-created those logs and put them
on gist.[1][2]
[1] startuptime: https://gist.github.com/weirdsmiley/19cc04445f8b0a37206b98de53e58339
[2] strace.out: https://gist.github.com/weirdsmiley/8a0f70efa7bf93d69181c7bf03e3a2bb
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> I have never heard about hyperfineน before, but it always seems to spawn
> a new shell and even so it is supposed to correct the shell spawning
> time, perhaps there is something going wrong? I would try using `-N` to
> disable the intermediate shell and probably open a new ticket about
> this.
>
Not spawing shell doesn't help either. Anyways I have filed a ticket.
https://github.com/sharkdp/hyperfine/issues/666
Also, previous logs are expired so I re-created those logs and put them
on gist.[1][2]
[1] startuptime: https://gist.github.com/weirdsmiley/19cc04445f8b0a37206b98de53e58339
[2] strace.out: https://gist.github.com/weirdsmiley/8a0f70efa7bf93d69181c7bf03e3a2bb
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Re: Improving vim startuptime
On Mo, 17 Jul 2023, Manas wrote:
> `startuptime` surprisingly shows me a mere 656ms, while hyperfine shows
> me 2.7s. I am not sure how this discrepancy is arising. Here is the full
> log. https://pastebin.mozilla.org/uTrJ7i8N
HTTP 404 Snippet not found
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> `startuptime` surprisingly shows me a mere 656ms, while hyperfine shows
> me 2.7s. I am not sure how this discrepancy is arising. Here is the full
> log. https://pastebin.mozilla.org/uTrJ7i8N
HTTP 404 Snippet not found
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Re: Improving vim startuptime
On Mo, 17 Jul 2023, Manas wrote:
> $ time vim -cq
>
> real 0m0.396s
> user 0m0.346s
> sys 0m0.047s
So now that you are at .3s startup time, is this okay or not?
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> $ time vim -cq
>
> real 0m0.396s
> user 0m0.346s
> sys 0m0.047s
So now that you are at .3s startup time, is this okay or not?
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Re: Improving vim startuptime
On So, 16 Jul 2023, Gary Johnson wrote:
> On 2023-07-17, Manas wrote:
> > $ hyperfine "vim -N -u NONE -i NONE -X -cq"
> > Benchmark 1: vim -N -u NONE -i NONE -X -cq
> > Time (mean ± σ): 2.047 s ± 0.006 s [User: 0.032 s, System: 0.010 s]
> > Range (min … max): 2.039 s … 2.056 s 10 runs
>
> Interesting! That's crazy. It should not take nearly that long to
> execute that last command. Vim is not doing anything but starting
> without loading any files, then immediately exiting.
>
> Is that what you observe without using hyperfine?
>
> I've never used hyperfine; I've just read about it since your post.
> I usually run a command with the time command, throw away the first
> run because it includes the time time to fill caches, then average
> the next three.
I have never heard about hyperfine¹ before, but it always seems to spawn
a new shell and even so it is supposed to correct the shell spawning
time, perhaps there is something going wrong? I would try using `-N` to
disable the intermediate shell and probably open a new ticket about
this.
¹https://github.com/sharkdp/hyperfine
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> On 2023-07-17, Manas wrote:
> > $ hyperfine "vim -N -u NONE -i NONE -X -cq"
> > Benchmark 1: vim -N -u NONE -i NONE -X -cq
> > Time (mean ± σ): 2.047 s ± 0.006 s [User: 0.032 s, System: 0.010 s]
> > Range (min … max): 2.039 s … 2.056 s 10 runs
>
> Interesting! That's crazy. It should not take nearly that long to
> execute that last command. Vim is not doing anything but starting
> without loading any files, then immediately exiting.
>
> Is that what you observe without using hyperfine?
>
> I've never used hyperfine; I've just read about it since your post.
> I usually run a command with the time command, throw away the first
> run because it includes the time time to fill caches, then average
> the next three.
I have never heard about hyperfine¹ before, but it always seems to spawn
a new shell and even so it is supposed to correct the shell spawning
time, perhaps there is something going wrong? I would try using `-N` to
disable the intermediate shell and probably open a new ticket about
this.
¹https://github.com/sharkdp/hyperfine
Best,
Christian
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