> On 02/09/11 19:59, William E. Skeith III wrote:
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am trying to map some basic Ctrl+Alt key combinations for GVIM on windows,
> > for example>
> > :imap<C-M-L> <C-Right>
> >
> > but I've become seriously stuck. It seems that windows GVIM does not respond
> > at all to<C-M-x>, where x is virtually any printable character (0-9,a-z,
> > punctuation, etc.).
> >
> > To test, I hit ctrl-Q while in insert mode, and then ctrl-alt-x key
> > combinations, (as described above) and nothing happens at all. However, it
> > does respond to other non-printable keys, for example<M-C-Left>, but that's
> > about it.
> >
> > Can anyone else confirm this to be the case? And if so, are there any
> > work-arounds? Key combinations like that would be extremely useful for me...
> > By the way, I'm using version 7.3.46, installed just a few days ago.
> >
> > Many thanks in advance for your help.
> >
> > -WES
> >
>
> Ctrl-Alt-letter keys may be preempted by the OS, or they may trigger a menu.
>
> When you type
> :verbose set wak?
>
> what is the answer?
>
> Oh, and 7.3.046 is already old hat: for W32 I recommend the "Vim without
> Cream" distribution, available as gvim-<version>.exe (a self-installer,
> currently for 7.3.289) at http://sourceforge.net/projects/cream/files/
>
>
> Best regards,
> Tony.
>
> ============================================
> Hi Tony,
>
> Thanks for the quick response! I had already discovered the issue with menu
> interference, so I have set winaltkeys=no from my vimrc. This problem does
> seem a little conspicuous to me, since it is not just some keys, but _every_
> key. GVIM is only responding to <M-C-k> if k is an arrow key, or some other
> control key like <BS>,<Del>,<Ins>.
>
> I will upgrade as you suggested, and see if that helps...
> Thanks again.
>
> -WES
>
> Hm, if Ctrl-V (or Crl-Q if you use Ctrl-V to paste) followed by Ctrl-Alt-<letter> fails to elicit any response (with 'showmode' on, the ^V or maybe ^Q remains in the lower right corner, and nothing appears in the buffer), then for some reason Vim doesn't get that key. Maybe the OS snatches it, I don't know. It might be better in gvim than in Console Vim, but no guarantee.
>
> In general, the "best" keys for the {lhs} of a mapping (keys which Vim will receive and which don't already have a preset binding) are the function keys, F2 to F12 (F1 is already Help, and F10 may or may not be a Menu key), then after that on many systems Shift-F1 to Shift-F12 (on Linux, Ctrl-F1 to Ctrl-F12 are usually reserved by the window manager for its own purposes, but if you run Vim only on Windows they should be usable too).
>
>
> Best regards,
> Tony.
> =============================================
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> Yep, that is what happens: ^V just sits in the corner in spite of me banging
> on pretty much every <M-C-x> key. This is in GVIM on windows 7, and I have
> now updated to version 7.3.289 (thanks for the tip, by the way).
>
> The function keys are a good suggestion, however the problem is that I had
> planned on using the above combination frequently during typing: my intent was
> to use a mapping like this >
> :imap<C-M-L> <C-Right>
>
> to quickly move a word right without leaving insert mode. In my other
> (non-modal) editor, I use the Alt key to kind of "temporarily enter normal
> mode", in Vim terms. I find it a bit slow to leave insert mode, enter the
> right command, and then come back, just to skip over a word. (However, this is
> only day 4 of my Vim usage, so maybe I'll get used to it.)
>
> Anyhow, can anyone with the same setup as mine confirm that this is hopeless?
> I have several other editors that respond to all of these keys, and I've read
> plenty of other accounts online of people mapping <M-C-x> (although not on
> windows) so I'm thinking that maybe there's still hope...
>
> Thanks!
>
> -WES
Have you tried the i_CTRL-O command to execute just one normal mode command
and return to insert mode, see ':help i_CTRL-O'. In your case: <C-O>W.
Best,
Marcin
==================================================
Hi Marcin,
Thanks- I was not aware of the i_CTRL-O command. I think that will prove
useful as a technique for dealing with some of these issues. However, I'd
still like to confirm whether or not it really is impossible to map these keys
on windows. Plenty of other programs respond to them, so I don't see why it
should be so difficult for Vim (although I haven't looked through the Vim
source, either...).
My thanks to everyone for taking the time to reply.
-WES
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