Re: Is Vundle dead?

On 11/25/2012 01:45 PM, ping wrote:
> these are really good points.
> I'd liketo start this project of "migrating" to VAM from "manual mode".
> but I really don't want to risk my production laptop by any chance.
> maybe I start from another "non-important" system and see how I
> feelwhen I move on.
> is there anything I need to be careful about ?
>
> thanks!
>
> regards
> ping
>
> On 11/25/2012 12:07 PM, Marc Weber wrote:
>> Excerpts from ping's message of Sun Nov 25 17:31:33 +0100 2012:
>>> thanks for the good discussion. the comment is helpful. now I know if I
>>> need, one of the 3 (or maybe all?) can be my choice.
>>> for metoday I'm still manually install plugins per needful. it's overall
>>> not a painful work.
>>> 99%the installation is just put.vim file in plugins and help doc in doc
>>> folder.
>>> I'm thinking what might be the real driver for me to believe I MUST (or
>>> really BETTER) to install one of those.
>> Its *not* about installing, but about
>> - updating
>> - removing
>> - trouble shooting
>>
>> And there are a lot of plugins which ship with
>> plugin/
>> autoload/
>> syntax/
>> doc/
>>
>> files. So it may require book-keeping, and you always run the risk that
>> files get renamed, so copying files over .vim is not enough.
>>
>> By trouble shooting I mean: VAM implements bisecting nowadays. Thus you
>> can make it activate sets of plugins to find the one causing trouble to
>> you in a case. Not loading a plugin is as easy as removing a name from a
>> list or commenting a "Bundle foo" line using vundle.
>>
>> It happened at least to 2-3 people that they were using old Sander's
>> snipmate running into trouble, asking for help. And the fix was always
>> "upgrade to latest version, it provides additional helpful features such
>> as automatically reloading script files depending no file modification
>> date" etc. If you install manually, you're going to miss such small
>> changes over time. Eg VAM does no longer let you install the old
>> snipmate by default - this way it can protect you against failure or
>> against spending your time on outdated tools.
>> Same happened to pyflake like plugins - people usually are more happy with
>> either syntastic or vim-addon-syntax-checker.
>>
>> For this reason I invite the community to contribute to
>> vim-addon-manager-known-repository - so that overall user experience can
>> be maximized to everybody.
>>
>> More than that you don't want to load all plugins always. Eg plugins
>> such as DrawIt may be useful once a month. What do do?
>> Using VAM you just do:
>> :ActivateAddon DrawIt
>> at runtime and you're done.
>>
>> Marc Weber
>
sorry If I (top)posted with html (bymistake).
and also I currently installed more than 50 plugins, I'm really not sure
how it goes with the VAM installed.
but it sounds like a solution to scale.

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