Hi all,
I'm using the Gnome Terminal with Debian vim-gtk3-9.1.777 (full --version below), but when I display a file containing tab characters with more, for example, it'll print the tab characters on the screen and I can select them with the normal click+drag of my mouse, which will select blocks 8 spaces wide. Likewise, ^⇧C will copy tab characters to the Gnome clipboard and ^⇧V will paste them in the terminal or ^V will paste them in any other gtk app.
However, vim will print the tabs as spaces, even though settings like listchars clearly show a tab is there. Likewise, the mouse selects individual space characters and ^⇧C/^⇧V will copy/paste spaces, or the actual characters printed by listchars if defined.
How do I get vim to behave more like... well, more in this respect?
Thanks, Best Regards.
$ cat ~/.vimrc
" tried various settings, but currently have:
set autoindent smartindent
set shiftwidth=4 tabstop=4
set noexpandtab smarttab
set shiftwidth=4 tabstop=4
set noexpandtab smarttab
$ vim --version
VIM - Vi IMproved 9.1 (2024 Jan 02, compiled Oct 15 2024 01:45:11)
Included patches: 1-777
Modified by team+vim@tracker.debian.org
Compiled by team+vim@tracker.debian.org
Huge version with GTK3 GUI. Features included (+) or not (-):
+acl +file_in_path +mouse_urxvt -tag_any_white
+arabic +find_in_path +mouse_xterm +tcl
+autocmd +float +multi_byte +termguicolors
+autochdir +folding +multi_lang +terminal
-autoservername -footer -mzscheme +terminfo
+balloon_eval +fork() +netbeans_intg +termresponse
+balloon_eval_term +gettext +num64 +textobjects
+browse -hangul_input +packages +textprop
++builtin_terms +iconv +path_extra +timers
+byte_offset +insert_expand +perl +title
+channel +ipv6 +persistent_undo +toolbar
+cindent +job +popupwin +user_commands
+clientserver +jumplist +postscript +vartabs
+clipboard +keymap +printer +vertsplit
+cmdline_compl +lambda +profile +vim9script
+cmdline_hist +langmap -python +viminfo
+cmdline_info +libcall +python3 +virtualedit
+comments +linebreak +quickfix +visual
+conceal +lispindent +reltime +visualextra
+cryptv +listcmds +rightleft +vreplace
+cscope +localmap +ruby +wildignore
+cursorbind +lua +scrollbind +wildmenu
+cursorshape +menu +signs +windows
+dialog_con_gui +mksession +smartindent +writebackup
+diff +modify_fname +sodium +X11
+digraphs +mouse +sound +xattr
+dnd +mouseshape +spell -xfontset
-ebcdic +mouse_dec +startuptime +xim
+emacs_tags +mouse_gpm +statusline -xpm
+eval -mouse_jsbterm -sun_workshop +xsmp_interact
+ex_extra +mouse_netterm +syntax +xterm_clipboard
+extra_search +mouse_sgr +tag_binary -xterm_save
-farsi -mouse_sysmouse -tag_old_static
system vimrc file: "/etc/vim/vimrc"
user vimrc file: "$HOME/.vimrc"
2nd user vimrc file: "~/.vim/vimrc"
3rd user vimrc file: "~/.config/vim/vimrc"
user exrc file: "$HOME/.exrc"
system gvimrc file: "/etc/vim/gvimrc"
user gvimrc file: "$HOME/.gvimrc"
2nd user gvimrc file: "~/.vim/gvimrc"
3rd user gvimrc file: "~/.config/vim/gvimrc"
defaults file: "$VIMRUNTIME/defaults.vim"
system menu file: "$VIMRUNTIME/menu.vim"
fall-back for $VIM: "/usr/share/vim"
Compilation: gcc -c -I. -Iproto -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DFEAT_GUI_GTK -I/usr/include/gtk-3.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/sysprof-6 -I/usr/include/harfbuzz -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng16 -I/usr/include/libmount -I/usr/include/blkid -I/usr/include/fribidi -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu -I/usr/include/webp -I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0 -I/usr/include/cloudproviders -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/at-spi2-atk/2.0 -I/usr/include/at-spi-2.0 -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dbus-1.0/include -pthread -Wdate-time -g -O2 -Werror=implicit-function-declaration -ffile-prefix-map=/build/reproducible-path/vim-9.1.0777=. -fstack-protector-strong -fstack-clash-protection -Wformat -Werror=format-security -fcf-protection -DSYS_VIMRC_FILE=\"/etc/vim/vimrc\" -DSYS_GVIMRC_FILE=\"/etc/vim/gvimrc\" -D_REENTRANT -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=1
Linking: gcc -Wl,-E -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,-z,now -Wl,--as-needed -o vim -lgtk-3 -lgdk-3 -lz -lpangocairo-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lharfbuzz -latk-1.0 -lcairo-gobject -lcairo -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lgio-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lSM -lICE -lXt -lX11 -lXdmcp -lSM -lICE -lm -ltinfo -lselinux -lcanberra -lsodium -lacl -lattr -lgpm -L/usr/lib -llua5.1 -Wl,-E -fstack-protector-strong -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.40/CORE -lperl -ldl -lm -lpthread -lcrypt -L/usr/lib/python3.12/config-3.12-x86_64-linux-gnu -lpython3.12 -ldl -lm -L/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu -ltcl8.6 -ldl -lz -lpthread -lm -lruby-3.1 -lm -L/usr/lib
Included patches: 1-777
Modified by team+vim@tracker.debian.org
Compiled by team+vim@tracker.debian.org
Huge version with GTK3 GUI. Features included (+) or not (-):
+acl +file_in_path +mouse_urxvt -tag_any_white
+arabic +find_in_path +mouse_xterm +tcl
+autocmd +float +multi_byte +termguicolors
+autochdir +folding +multi_lang +terminal
-autoservername -footer -mzscheme +terminfo
+balloon_eval +fork() +netbeans_intg +termresponse
+balloon_eval_term +gettext +num64 +textobjects
+browse -hangul_input +packages +textprop
++builtin_terms +iconv +path_extra +timers
+byte_offset +insert_expand +perl +title
+channel +ipv6 +persistent_undo +toolbar
+cindent +job +popupwin +user_commands
+clientserver +jumplist +postscript +vartabs
+clipboard +keymap +printer +vertsplit
+cmdline_compl +lambda +profile +vim9script
+cmdline_hist +langmap -python +viminfo
+cmdline_info +libcall +python3 +virtualedit
+comments +linebreak +quickfix +visual
+conceal +lispindent +reltime +visualextra
+cryptv +listcmds +rightleft +vreplace
+cscope +localmap +ruby +wildignore
+cursorbind +lua +scrollbind +wildmenu
+cursorshape +menu +signs +windows
+dialog_con_gui +mksession +smartindent +writebackup
+diff +modify_fname +sodium +X11
+digraphs +mouse +sound +xattr
+dnd +mouseshape +spell -xfontset
-ebcdic +mouse_dec +startuptime +xim
+emacs_tags +mouse_gpm +statusline -xpm
+eval -mouse_jsbterm -sun_workshop +xsmp_interact
+ex_extra +mouse_netterm +syntax +xterm_clipboard
+extra_search +mouse_sgr +tag_binary -xterm_save
-farsi -mouse_sysmouse -tag_old_static
system vimrc file: "/etc/vim/vimrc"
user vimrc file: "$HOME/.vimrc"
2nd user vimrc file: "~/.vim/vimrc"
3rd user vimrc file: "~/.config/vim/vimrc"
user exrc file: "$HOME/.exrc"
system gvimrc file: "/etc/vim/gvimrc"
user gvimrc file: "$HOME/.gvimrc"
2nd user gvimrc file: "~/.vim/gvimrc"
3rd user gvimrc file: "~/.config/vim/gvimrc"
defaults file: "$VIMRUNTIME/defaults.vim"
system menu file: "$VIMRUNTIME/menu.vim"
fall-back for $VIM: "/usr/share/vim"
Compilation: gcc -c -I. -Iproto -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DFEAT_GUI_GTK -I/usr/include/gtk-3.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/sysprof-6 -I/usr/include/harfbuzz -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng16 -I/usr/include/libmount -I/usr/include/blkid -I/usr/include/fribidi -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu -I/usr/include/webp -I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0 -I/usr/include/cloudproviders -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/at-spi2-atk/2.0 -I/usr/include/at-spi-2.0 -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dbus-1.0/include -pthread -Wdate-time -g -O2 -Werror=implicit-function-declaration -ffile-prefix-map=/build/reproducible-path/vim-9.1.0777=. -fstack-protector-strong -fstack-clash-protection -Wformat -Werror=format-security -fcf-protection -DSYS_VIMRC_FILE=\"/etc/vim/vimrc\" -DSYS_GVIMRC_FILE=\"/etc/vim/gvimrc\" -D_REENTRANT -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=1
Linking: gcc -Wl,-E -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,-z,now -Wl,--as-needed -o vim -lgtk-3 -lgdk-3 -lz -lpangocairo-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lharfbuzz -latk-1.0 -lcairo-gobject -lcairo -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lgio-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lSM -lICE -lXt -lX11 -lXdmcp -lSM -lICE -lm -ltinfo -lselinux -lcanberra -lsodium -lacl -lattr -lgpm -L/usr/lib -llua5.1 -Wl,-E -fstack-protector-strong -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.40/CORE -lperl -ldl -lm -lpthread -lcrypt -L/usr/lib/python3.12/config-3.12-x86_64-linux-gnu -lpython3.12 -ldl -lm -L/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu -ltcl8.6 -ldl -lz -lpthread -lm -lruby-3.1 -lm -L/usr/lib
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