Re: www.vim.org contents - what about adding a git based wiki everybody can edit?

On Feb 21, 10:27 am, Marc Weber <marco-owe...@gmx.de> wrote:
> Excerpts from Ben Fritz's message of Tue Feb 21 16:48:36 +0100 2012:> Why not a real wiki with real wiki syntax? Or why not just create
> > pages on the existing wikia.com wiki with prominent links from
> > vim.org? code.google.com also provides a wiki, IIRC. I don't see a
> > need to create something new.
>
> Because its you who can download it and use it as local resource.
> That in turn could make people contribute little bit more because
> *editing in vim* is that easy :)
>

I actually doubt very many people would use it locally. Perhaps some
would, but most of the time people will search the web for a reference
on how to do something, and just bookmark it if they want to use it
again.

> And no, I'm not talking about reinventing the wheel,
> it does already exist:
>
>     solution 1:http://hackage.haskell.org/package/gitit
>     solution 2: Vim help file syntax
>     solution 3:http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2226
>

One of my concerns was that I thought you wanted to invent some new
web interface. Good to know this isn't what you are saying. I still
think it's a bad idea. We tried a reference section of the vim.org
site before, called "Vim tips". We moved it to vim.wikia.com. I wasn't
involved at that point, so I don't know all the reasons, but I don't
think it's a good idea to move back to vim.org and have TWO resources.

For one thing, it will make information harder to find. People won't
know which resource to search through, or will feel obligated to
search through both. Even worse, there are only a handful of regular
active contributors to the wiki. Adding *another* system to pay
attention to means even less attention to both resources.

> Why not mediawiki? Because sending patches requires "logging in"
> Because you can't use Vim for editing (I know that there are plugins
> which come close - but - we just *love* Vim, don't we?)
>

With a git back-end, you'd either need to allow pushes by anybody, or
have somebody constantly responding to pull requests. So potentially
you need to log in anyway.

Maybe we want to allow global push rights, I don't know. The wiki
currently does *not* recquire a login, it would be similar. But one
push could change any number of pages, whereas one wiki edit only
affects a single page. Then again, repairing the damage is just
reverting the one changeset.

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