efficiently navigating and the jumplist

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Hi all,

Although I have been using Vim now for over two years now as my main
text editor, I often still have the feeling that I'm not very efficient
in navigating through a file, more specifically through the part of the
file which is on my screen.
Most of the time when I can see the line where I want to jump to I will
use a count together with the j or k command. I use 'relativenumber', so
I can easily see the correct count. However, this still feels a little
inefficient, as my eyes first have to find the line I want to jump to,
then carefully (without loosing track of the line) look to the left to
find the correct number, then my fingers have to enter the correct
number and finally I can press j or k.
So far the jumplist has also always felt rather confusing to me.
Yesterday I finally discovered why: I think of the method how I move to
specific lines as being a 'jump', because in fact, the cursor jumps to
another line in the file. However, Vim doesn't think of this as being a
jump. The reason for this is that a j and a k without a count are
obviously not jumps.

So now I'm wondering what my options are to navigate efficiently and be
able to use the jumplist correctly at the same time?
Some ideas:
- - maybe I should simply use search a lot more? Just typing what I want
to find is probably equally fast as looking at linenumbers, and
searches are jumps
- - Make use of H M L to jump 'near' the line I want and then use j / k?
that would at least add some positions to the jumplist, but feels very
inefficient also.
- - stop using 'relativenumber' and use a count with the G command. This
fixes the jumplist but then I would have to enter longer numbers in
most cases and I loose the benefits of relativenumber (for deletions
etc).
- - remap j and k so that they would calculate the correct linenumber and
use the G command instead, but only if the count is larger then 5 for
example?

Wouldn't it be possible to add a configuration option to Vim to make the
jumplist recognize 'jumps' with j and k? For example 'minimumjumplines'
which can be set to an int. When 0 the behaviour is as it is now; when
set to a value greater than 0, it will add a position to the jumplist
when using j and k to move the cursor up/down at least that number of
lines (when not in operator pending mode)

Thanks a lot for any suggestions!
Jeroen
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