Re: efficiently navigating and the jumplist

On 01/12/2013 08:15 PM, Ethan Hereth wrote:
> You might look into the Easymotion plugin. It makes motions on a window
> of text quite a bit quicker once you get the hang of it. I use it quite
> regularly.
Hi Ethan!
Thanks for you suggestion! I know the EasyMotion plugin and have tested
it once in the past. While it is a really cool plugin, I'm a bit
reluctant to using plugins that significantly change the way how you use
Vim, because I regularly use Vim on other servers where I don't have my
own config. Once I would get used to such a plugin I guess I would feel
rather uncomfortable on a server without those plugins.

Jeroen
>
> On Friday, January 11, 2013, Jeroen Budts wrote:
>
> TL;DR: I often use <count>j and <count>k to jump to other lines (with
> 'relativenumber' enabled).
> Is it possible to add those jumps to the jumplist?
> And/or what are more efficient ways of jumping to lines which are
> visible on the screen?
>
> Thanks, and my excuses for my previous mail which was obviously too
> long :)
> Jeroen
>
> On 01/10/2013 05:39 PM, Jeroen Budts wrote:
>> Hi all,
>
>> Although I have been using Vim now for over two years now as my
>> main text editor, I often still have the feeling that I'm not very
>> efficient in navigating through a file, more specifically through
>> the part of the file which is on my screen. Most of the time when
>> I can see the line where I want to jump to I will use a count
>> together with the j or k command. I use 'relativenumber', so I can
>> easily see the correct count. However, this still feels a little
>> inefficient, as my eyes first have to find the line I want to jump
>> to, then carefully (without loosing track of the line) look to the
>> left to find the correct number, then my fingers have to enter the
>> correct number and finally I can press j or k. So far the jumplist
>> has also always felt rather confusing to me. Yesterday I finally
>> discovered why: I think of the method how I move to specific lines
>> as being a 'jump', because in fact, the cursor jumps to another
>> line in the file. However, Vim doesn't think of this as being a
>> jump. The reason for this is that a j and a k without a count are
>> obviously not jumps.
>
>> So now I'm wondering what my options are to navigate efficiently
>> and be able to use the jumplist correctly at the same time? Some
>> ideas: - maybe I should simply use search a lot more? Just typing
>> what I want to find is probably equally fast as looking at
>> linenumbers, and searches are jumps - Make use of H M L to jump
>> 'near' the line I want and then use j / k? that would at least add
>> some positions to the jumplist, but feels very inefficient also. -
>> stop using 'relativenumber' and use a count with the G command.
>> This fixes the jumplist but then I would have to enter longer
>> numbers in most cases and I loose the benefits of relativenumber
>> (for deletions etc). - remap j and k so that they would calculate
>> the correct linenumber and use the G command instead, but only if
>> the count is larger then 5 for example?
>
>> Wouldn't it be possible to add a configuration option to Vim to
>> make the jumplist recognize 'jumps' with j and k? For example
>> 'minimumjumplines' which can be set to an int. When 0 the
>> behaviour is as it is now; when set to a value greater than 0, it
>> will add a position to the jumplist when using j and k to move the
>> cursor up/down at least that number of lines (when not in operator
>> pending mode)
>
>> Thanks a lot for any suggestions! Jeroen
>
>
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