Re: Disable Help

Gary,

Thank you for all you've said, including explaining.  Roger all that!

I fixed the 'set nocompatible' as you pointed out into my core .vimrc.

I echo'd  "map! <f1> <nop"  > f1test

Next I did:  "/usr/bin/vim -N -u f1test --noplugin"

<F1> in CommandMode brought up help.  Did ":q".

Did 'i' for insert mode and <F1>  and NADA!!!

Very helpful directive troubleshooting.

I then added "map <f1> <nop" into f1test; now it looks like:

map <F1> <Nop>
map! <F1> <Nop>

Retried "/usr/bin/vim -N -u f1test --noplugin"--- and CommandMode/InsertMode attempts to <F1> properly FAIL!

VOILA!!

My fallacy was that I KNEW everything else in my .vimrc was good to go---just needed one more little detail to 'work right'.

Ok, I'm off to layer back in my .vimrc content to find the real source of my problem.

I'll follow up with what I find.

Thank you, Gary (and everyone else who has helped)!!

R,
-Joe Wulf;  RHCSA(RHEL7), FITSP-D, CISSP, VCP3, CPO(USN/RET)
Tony Robbins:  "Management is focusing on getting someone to get a result. Leadership is producing a standard in someone that when you're gone, they will live by to produce higher level results consistently".

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 3:04 AM Gary Johnson <garyjohn@spocom.com> wrote:

On 2022-01-21, Joseph Wulf wrote:
> Gary,
>
> I moved .vimrc out of the way.
> Executed "\vim"   to negate my bash alias which does:  "alias vim='/usr/bin/vim
> -u ~/.vimrc'"
>
> I first did '<F1>' and got the help, and quit out of it ":q"
> I next did 'a' and then did '<F1>' and got the help, and quit out of it ":q"
>
> The results from ":verbose map! <F1>" was "No mapping found"---------same for "
> :verbose map <F1>.
>
> Thank you... I appreciate the help.
> I've spent a couple hours this evening browsing through the VIM ":help".... to
> see what more I could learn.

Joe,

The point of the experiment was to try to discover what it is in
your setup that causes the insert- and command-mode mapping of <f1>
(i.e., "map! <f1> <nop>") to disappear or become ineffective.  If
you move your ~/.vimrc out of the way, we don't learn anything.

That said, it may not have been a very good experiment because the
:verbose command would not have said where F1 became unmapped.
(I'm experimenting with a very old 7.2.330 Vim on an even older
Ubuntu 10.04 system.)

One approach would be to create a file, say f1test, put in this one
line:

    map! <f1> <nop>

and start vim like this:

    /usr/bin/vim -N -u f1test

Then see if typing the F1 while in insert mode still brings up help.

If that works to stop F1 from bringing up help, then slowly add
lines to f1test from your ~/.vimrc until it fails.

If that doesn't work, then it may be a plugin.  You can start Vim as

    /usr/bin/vim -N -u f1test --noplugin

to see if that works.

I did see something in your ~/.vimrc that you should change.
I don't know whether or not it affects this problem, but it will
likely cause other problems.  You have

    set nocompatible

in the middle of that file.  It should be at the very top, the first
thing executed.  See

    :help 'compatible'

Regards,
Gary

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