Re: Terminal into vim, best options???

Tony Mechelynck wrote:

> On 24/05/10 15:29, Pablo Giménez wrote:
>> Hi.
>> I have been looking aroundto see what are the best options to have e
>> fully usable terminal in VIM.
>> Basically a buffer which opens a terminal.
>> I have seen a coupleof options:
>> VimSh: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=165
>> Problem here is that it needs a python ready vim, which is not so common
>> in all systems.
>> Screen: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2711
>> This one looks good, and screen is a common in any UNIX system.
>>
>> Any more options, anyone can put her/his experience using any of these
>> plugins?
>>
>> Finally to have a complitely multiplatform solution, wouldbe great to
>> have a solution for windows.
>> I haven't been able to find a plugin that opens a command (cmd.exe)
>> session inside vim.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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>> Un saludo
>> Best Regards
>> Pablo Giménez
>>
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>
> Why don't you simply open a terminal beside Vim? Vim is not a shell, and
> though there are some third-party attempts to make it behave as one,
> Bram has several times showed that he was staunchly opposed against that
> kind of capabilities becoming part of mainline Vim.
>
> The :! and :shell commands in gvim for Windows open a cmd.exe window
> beside Vim; in Unix gvim they make the Vim command-line into a "dumb"
> terminal which, like the teletypewriters used as consoles in the first
> Unix machines, can move the "paper" forward by one line at a time and
> never backward. I think the "best" option about a "fully usable"
> terminal in gvim is: don't. But then Vim is open source, you can always
> change it in any way you want, even beyond recognition and even if it
> requires huge changes to the C code.
>
> Maybe the best option is to use _console_ Vim, which, at least on Linux
> (I'm not sure anymore about Windows) will hide itself when you use :! or
> :shell, and display the "fully usable" terminal from which it was
> started. Not in a buffer of course -- I guess you'd need Emacs to run an
> interactive shell in an editor split-window.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Tony.

This might be of interest: http://conque.googlecode.com

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