Re: Announcement : http://vim.begin-site.org/ - The Vim Beginners' Site

Hi Mr. Weber,

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 00:42:32 +0100
Marc Weber <marco-oweber@gmx.de> wrote:

> great:
> we all can contribute
>
> you should mention why you have chosen to start a new site rather than
> using the existing wiki - and why you want to limit the "contributable
> page" to "beginners".

Which "contributable page"? In any case, while the wiki is a useful resource,
as some people told me on IRC:

<<<
the vim wiki is a mess, the help is too hard to navigate for
newcomers
>>>

Another problem with the wiki is that being hosted on Wikia, there are some
intrusive ads by default.

>
> I've had the idea to start something similar, store all the contents in
> a git repo all users can access and contribute to, which is that similar
> to text that you can also read/grep/edit with vim.

I store all the contents in a repository too - only in my case it is Mercurial
and not git (Mercurial is a distributed version control system very similar to
git). Perhaps I need to add a "Fork me on Bitbucket" strip like the shopworn
"Fork my on GitHub one, but for now see:

http://vim.begin-site.org/source/

>
> Moreover the idea I had also included managing plugins by VCS repository
> url - so that the www.vim.org implementation could be replaced one day.

Interesting.

>
> If you're interested in those goals to I'll point you to our document to
> which we've written our ideas (me and garbas that time).

Sure, give us a link. It may provide some inspiration.

> I don't think Vim needs yet another page - it needs one which can be
> contributed to by users easily.

Well, see:

http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/fortunes/show.cgi?id=perl-petdance-thousand-flowers

Anyway, it shouldn't be hard for clueful users to contribute content directly to
the Vim-Begin, though at the moment it will require some more mental effort than
using a web browser interface. It is certainly easier than tweaking the source
of http://perl-begin.org/contribute/ which has quite a few dependencies.

>
> However its only my personal opinion.
>

Your opinion still counts and it will provide some useful input.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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