Re: command-line commands instead of abbreviations?

On Monday, September 29, 2014 1:21:57 AM UTC-5, gevisz wrote:
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> So, Vim does not fully support utf-8 and thus using commands instead of
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> abbreviations is not an option for me.
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Nope I guess not. But abbreviations don't work in normal mode anyway which is where you wanted to use your command.

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> > You could use a mapping instead of a command pretty easily.
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> Not so easy as one can think as
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> 1. I just cannot type mapping quick enough for it to work if
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> 1) the mapping is more than 4 characters long,
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> 2) I use it not very often and thus stop in the middle
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> of it to recall the next character.
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You could set your 'timeoutlen' to be longer if you like.

> 2. I cannot use for mappings such combination of letters
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> that can be encountered in usual text. That results in
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> a longer and harder to remember mappings and the latter
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> magnifies the reason 1 above.
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In normal mode, where you wanted to create your command, you will never be inserting text. So this reason doesn't apply.

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> As to abbreviations, they have their own limitations.
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> First of all, they cannot contain cyrillic letter "р"
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> at least in utf-8 encoding and at least for now. (Well,
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> actually they can but in this case they just do not
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> expand.)
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That is a bug. It will be fixed.

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> Second, they do not expand if typed just after other
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> letter characters.
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By this, do you mean that your abbreviation must have whitespace preceding? Or something else?

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> > Does it need to be a command?
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> Yes, this alternative to mappings and abbreviations
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> would be very attractive (if they can work with
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> cyrillic command names, of course) as in addition
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> they could use arguments, for example, to insert
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> some changeable numbers in the middle of a
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> non-changeable text.

That could also be accomplished with a mapping, using getchar() or input() or something within the mapping. Especially if you use an <expr> mapping.

But all in all...it sounds like maybe you need a snippet plugin of some sort. Do a web search, there are several.

As a different approach, maybe you can look into using insert-mode completion instead of mappings or abbreviations. If you're only completing single words (separated by "non-keyword" characters) then you could potentially use dictionary completion (:help 'dictionary', :help compl-dictionary). If you have phrases also to complete, then you can define a user-completion (:help compl-function) or omni-completion (:help compl-omni) function to insert whatever you want based on whatever input you want. If you have several similar entries, you can see them all in a list. You could even parse "arguments" of sorts in your completion function for text that can change.

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