Tuesday, February 23, 2016

Re: Newbie Setup Advice

On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 12:56:09 PM UTC-5, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> Ben Fritz wrote:
>
> > On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 11:58:54 PM UTC-6, ZyX wrote:
> > >
> > > Pathogen is not a plugin manager.
> > >
> >
> > I understand this sentiment, especially coming from someone such as
> > yourself who works on a very fully featured plugin manager with
> > abilities such as enabling or disabling plugins at runtime or
> > automatically updating installed plugins.
> >
> > But...what should we call Pathogen? Granted, it doesn't really do any
> > actual managing of plugins itself, but it enables you to do so much
> > more easily.
> >
> > Without Pathogen, it is difficult to track down all files associated
> > with a plugin. Thus it is mildly difficult to install and quite
> > difficult to uninstall. Using Pathogen each plugin gets its own
> > directory which is a large improvement over the status quo (although
> > that's changing I understand from recent patches to the Vim core).
> >
> > Does that make Pathogen a "plugin management tool" rather than a
> > "plugin manager?" I can't really think of a better term for a tool
> > that helps you manage plugins yourself.
>
> I haven't actually used Pathogen myself, but I think the new 'packpath'
> feature replaces most of it.
>
> Rewriting the example from Pathogen:
>
> mkdir -p ~/.vim/pack/tpope/ever
> cd !$
> git clone git://github.com/tpope/vim-sensible.git
>
> What would still be useful:
> :Helptags update all doc/tags files
>
> And perhaps:
> :PackUpdate find all git/mercurial repositories under
> 'packpath' and update them.
>
> These can be done with Vim script. Any volunteers?
>
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Can this actually replace Pathogen? It doesn't look like it deals with plugins without a "plugin" directory (so things like colors or ftplugins), does it?

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