Saturday, November 19, 2011

Re: rating manipulations on www.vim.org have taken place

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011, Marc Weber wrote:

> It happened to a plugin of tpope and to one of mine:
>
> 31 down ratings in sequence on 2011-08-06 between 18:234 and 22:05
> 310 down ratings in sequence on 2011-08-08 between 10:39 and 22:25
> 509 down ratings in sequence on 2011-08-08 between 01:39 and 18:30
>
> In between no neutral or positive voting for VAM.

This sounds like the same issue that affected one of Dr. Chip's plugins:

Thread on vim-dev, Subject: manpageview rating dive

As I explained there¹:

"""
...some search engine(s) grabbed the down-vote URL when crawling
www.vim.org. In this case, googling:

site:www.vim.org inurl:unfulfilling

(where 'unfulfilling' is the 'rating' value for a down-vote) comes up
with exactly one result for me:

ManPageView - [...]

[...]

Seems like the ratings should only use $_POST (PHP var), but they appear
to be using $_GET, too.
"""

Bram subsequently fixed the issue², but that didn't happen until after
the timeframe of your downvotes.

Perhaps downvotes from some period of time could be discarded (by
whoever has access to the raw data and can see an overall pattern).

¹: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/vim_dev/-TVtxlNoi98/QqoPvye3bOIJ
²: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/vim_dev/-TVtxlNoi98/So-Bu1d_Ij8J


> [...]
>
> community: What do you suggest?

That you ignore the ratings, as most people seem to do (I never notice
them, personally). Probably they're not very useful in general, so
maybe removing them altogether is the right solution. As Erik writes:
A corrupted voting scheme does not seem to be as helpful as no voting
scheme.

Although, I'm also likely not the right person to ask, since I'm much
more likely to install things I find on github or directly on Dr. Chip's
site than anything from vim.org. Most of the scripts I see on the
scripts site seem to be abandonware, whereas the ones on github that
come up in general google results usually have clear indications of
recent activity.

--
Best,
Ben

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