Re: i write a new vim package/plugin manager like debian's apt

dear Marc Weber:
yes, i agree some point of your ideal. now let's explain some thing:
1. vundle && pathogen
i read their code and i think their function are quite less.
why i want write a another manager? because:
1.1 some plugin need out of band program to help them, such as ctag,
package manager should do something on it
1.2 some plugin need python support or set nocompatible，but unless you
read the doc before, you will fall and you don't know why
1.3 with the plugin's function is more and more complex, some public
vim script library have appeared "L9 : Vim-script library", dependency
will manage
1.4 auto-tools and interaction of other programs, let bash write
package name into your .vimrc is not the good path, at least i don't
think so.
1.5 security, wild plugin on github or something may curse security
problem, you can't guarantee that. user may write a wrong git address
that will horrible
1.6 copyright , although copyright is not your care, but in law, it is required
2. vim-addon-manager
sorry, that's my fault. but there is too many plugin manager called
"vim-addon-manager". what i first found it's the ubuntu's package
called "vim-addon-manager" which is write in ruby. well i don't like
that, not only you will install ruby for this but also i hate ruby
things for my personal reason. and it's looks not a good manager in my
point of view. may be what your means "vim-addon-manager" is this
http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2905 or
https://github.com/MarcWeber/vim-addon-manager which may write by you
judged by author's name. it's really a good job.　it look's a little
simlar to my job on functions.
3. vimapt
Sentence summary is "apt on vim", this is what i want

If you think different don't be shy and tell me.


2013/3/9 Marc Weber <marco-oweber@gmx.de>:
> Excerpts from 孔晓泉's message of Sat Mar 09 05:42:23 +0100 2013:
>> hello everyone:
>> recently i write a new vim package/plugin manager .because it
>> operate like dbian's apt, so i call it "vimapt".
>> here is the repository https://bitbucket.org/howlanderson/vimapt
>> and some article in my blog http://www.howlanderson.net/?cat=33
>> Notice: vimapt is just in alpha, unstable and may full of bugs
>> I hope you can try it, whether you think it is good or bad, please
>> give me some feedback, Thank you very much!
>
> Hy 孔晓泉,
>
> In the future please write to the mailinglist *before* you start *yet
> another package* for doing a task. Because there are already many
> implementations:
>
> pathogen
> vundle
> vim-addon-manager
> vimana
> (and probbably some more)
>
> Then give those projects a try, and consider contributing (if they
> philosophy is close enough to your ideas) - if not - document in which
> way your solution is different. This will make it easier for other
> people to know whether they want to give your solution a try
>
> Your very last sentence sasy:
>
> == Inspiration and ideas from ==
> vundle
> pathogen
> bundler
> Scott Bronson
>
> which clearly shows that you've missed vim-addon-manager, which might be
> closest to what you've been looking for.
>
> Which in turn makes me think we should no longer wait, we have to setup
> the git based wiki system on www.vim.org ASAP, else this will happen
> over and over again and split the community.
>
> Its great that people around Vim do solve problems - step up and get it
> done. But the Vim eco system sucks so much - that energy is wasted a
> lot. And we as community have to fix that.
>
> If you think different don't be shy and tell me.
>
> Marc Weber
>
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