Re: Vim Weekly

On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 1:56:04 PM UTC-5, MarcWeber wrote:
> > My goal
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> > - We need one person to serve as a door keeper to the project
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> > (something like the linux kernel project) the main objective here is
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> > to fight spam and verify that the tip actually works.
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> I know - testing tips and judging which to use is most work, correct.
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> > - Users should not be allowed to edit the content on the main site, all tips would be submitted on github via pull-request or simply editing a file. (Again trying to fight spam
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> I haven't seen a single spam commit on my wiki yet. And if it happens
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> git commits are trivially to revert or drop. My idea is to be
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> "uncommon" and simple. adding ?vim_edit=1 to a page is very simple - but
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> no bot will know about it.
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> > In the next coming weeks I am hoping to write a command line utility
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> > that will enable users to submit tips from the CLI, possibly somebody
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> > else could create a vim plugin to make this available from inside VIM.
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> If you start using my wiki (or wikia) you can start right a way without
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> writing additional code.
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> > Finally, with the amount of feedback and support that I am getting on
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> > this project I have migrated the project from my personal github
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> > account to a github organization account.
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> Which organization? I and Zyx (and Shougo) are part of
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> bitbucket.org/vimcommunity (which also want sto be open to any such
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> projects). Drop me a line if you want me to add you as admin.
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> > Let me know what you think - Its an open source project is heavily
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> > driven by the community.
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> I think this all should be on the main vim wiki, we should try to
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> collaborate as much as possible - and I think it should be
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> usable/greppable on disk.
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> There are many tips already, people just have to read them.
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> I'd say: Start spending your time on the tips, then send them to the
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> mailinglist, do this twice, then think about how to move on depending on
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> the feedback. You can still write plugins etc.
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> To get started I'd even say people can put there tips here (I've put
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> almost everything I find useful on my wiki ..)
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> If you want to write plugins I'm not going to stop you - just wondering
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> whether its most important to get started.
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> Marc Weber



> I haven't seen a single spam commit on my wiki yet. And if it happens
I dont doubt that but that is probably because it has not yet gained a lot of traction from the community and also web bots. I was not there when vim-wikia started but I am pretty sure that they made such assumptions.


> If you start using my wiki (or wikia) you can start right a way without
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> writing additional code.
There is not a lot of code left to write, we (meaning us the community/maintainers) have over 100+ subscribers who have given us their emails and expect 5 vim tips in their mailbox on monday. I could certainly port some of your code to what I already have.


> Which organization? I and Zyx (and Shougo) are part of
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> bitbucket.org/vimcommunity (which also want sto be open to any such
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> projects). Drop me a line if you want me to add you as admin.
The new organization created to host all the code is https://github.com/vimweekly - I agree that we need to have a centralized location for all vim related projects, there is no point in having multiple accounts trying to do the same thing. By the way Marc, I noticed that you have a github account and wondering why you guys chose bitbucket since the majority of devs use github. The only thing that I can think of is because is free but wait all the code we write is meant to be public and free for all.



> I think this all should be on the main vim wiki, we should try to
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> collaborate as much as possible - and I think it should be
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> usable/greppable on disk.
Yeah we can certainly have a conference call with the other maintainers of vimcommunity to lay out potential plans for the project. Yes it is definitely going to be be greppable. Since other subscribers are already asking about rss feeds and all the other good stuffs I have decided to write an API that would return either a JSON or XML feed (has not yet been implemented but should be done by this weekend)

> I'd say: Start spending your time on the tips, then send them to the
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> mailinglist, do this twice, then think about how to move on depending on
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> the feedback.
This might not be possible as we already people waiting for their 5 tips.
Remember that is about creating an entirely new vim experience in the community. It might take a really long time before we get there but a first step must be taken.


Tawheed

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