Re: breaking with history ?

On 12 June 2013, Marc Weber <marco-oweber@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> > magic [..] forces every single script out there to handle it.
> That's fixable by prefixing all regex by \m ?

That's exactly my point: your options are (1) set 'magic' in your
script and make sure it never, ever, under any circumstance spills onto
the command line, or (2) litter every single regexp with \m.

> > Then 'lazyredraw', off by default, no less: why is this an option to
> > begin with?
> Can you add this to the page?
> http://vim-wiki.mawercer.de/wiki/vim-development/breaking-with-the-past.html
> then add ?vim_edit=1 And describe why which options should be gone (or
> at least be hidden)

I might gather the time and determination to go through that list
some day, but then I'll probably find it easier to write a patch than
write a story about it.

> > About the docs, can you tell off the top of your head how can I get
> > to the list of functions gouped by category? To the list of
> > operator priorities? The list of exceptions? How do you even
> > search for these?
> But is it a problem?

Yes, it is, a big one. When I need a reference, I almost always
need it right away. If I receive it two hours later when somebody posts
an answer to some list, it will be out of context for my tiny brain.
I'm an old fart researcher, and to me a reference is a reference, and a
help desk is a help desk. They serve very different purposes.

> Join irc, ask. Join mailinglist, ask. You usually get good replies
> instantly. Yes - it sucks, but people listen and they do help.
>
> > As for what I'd do differently should the Vim project start from
> > scratch, I'd say that would be the GUI.
> That's not enough. What exactly are you missing slowing you down?

I added the link to that blog post mainly for that particular point.
There are a number of things we'll never ever see in Vim, such as more
than one font size on the screen at the same time, or minimap. Do try
Sublime Text some time, you'll be surprised how nice it actually is.

> > most of us) but still valid points. Example of such a rant:
> > http://delvarworld.github.io/blog/2013/03/16/just-use-sublime-text/
>
> Let me comment shortly. (CCing the author, because I cannot comment on
> that homepage)

FWIW, I'm not that author of that post, and I don't agree with
everything there. I was just pointing at a different way to look at
Vim.

[...]
> After all pathogen is cool, it solves a problem, doesn't it?
[...]

Actually, yes, pathogen does solves the problem for some of us.
Whether you like pathogen, vundle, your vam, or something else, is a
matter of your personal style of doing things. Pathogen does exactly
one thing, it does it well, and stays out of your way. Some people do
appreciate this kind of minimalism.

/lcd

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