> the open bracket in current line? In vim I'll do f(, in
It was Vim starting me use ctl-f ( <cr> which works in word, notepad
etc pretty well but is more annoying.
Yes - of course Vim changes the way you perceive text. Its because you
do no longer have to read the text - you just navigate.
You don't search for a closing bracket - you press % and you're done
etc.
You're question is not accurate enough.
There are Vi(m) like key bindings for:
- word, outlook (microsoft office)
- IDEA
- Eclipse
- Netbeans
- Emacs (vimpulse)
- bash
- zsh
- monodevelop (but very very incomplete - I'd even say unusable)
So your assumption Vim once always Vim is not true because you can use
some Vim habits in other editors as well.
I use Vim for almost everything - but when coding Java or C++
I occasionally switch to Eclipse (of course using viplugin).
But then I'm still missing
- macros
- gnu id utils
- filter search results once again
- do g; twice
- ...
Yes - VimL is old. But its still competetive to Java or elisp for most
tasks. Even though I'm missing closures and much more fancy stuff its a
perfect DSL for an editor.
Emacs is currently no option for me because I've heavily tweaked Vim to
fit my needs - and beacuse Emacs does run all operations from the dir of
the current buffer which IMHO sucks. I have the code laying around to
fix it. I would have to reimplement or wrap all important functions such
as grep - but why do the effort?
If I did that then running m-x <m-p> <retype the same option .. ..>
Its not competitive compared to @:.
In contrast Emacs has many features I'm missing. Eg the completion
system seems to be more mature etc - but who cares? I get my job done.
Maybe its because I already spend much more time on Vim .. Don't know.
Yes - Vim changes your mind. Its hard for me watching others using slow
editors because I know "I'd be done in half the time or less..".
However I have to be more accurate: I'm not talking about plain Vim. I'm
talking about Vim plus VimL code making live easier.
And my setup only works well using two hands. If I had to hold a phone
...
If you want to know whether Vim can change something - then hold two
pencils - and write with both at the same time.
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Some like
...
do this for several days and you'll know the answer.
I'm eager to read more interesting replies.
Marc Weber
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