Thursday, February 17, 2011

Re: OT: Vim Humans are...

For me it was the modal thing as well, combined with movement simplicity while in command mode via hjkl. For any customizable program I use other than vim, I configure these keys to do movement within the app when <control> key or some other meta type key is also held down. Even movement between desktops in Xwindows, MacOS spaces and X apps and applications themselves is tied to hjkl if at all possible in my world. This works extremely well because oftem I'm switching between one other app and vim itself, so the only other difference is suppression of <ctrl> when they are "adjacent". I'm right handed, but if I were left handed I'd for sure incorporate mouse actions and events to be combined with hjkl. I can only imagine the bliss and panacea that vim is for left handers and I'm extremely jealous and wish when I started using a mouse 25 years ago before I discovered vi and later vim I would have grabbed it with my left hand :-)


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 07:43:42PM +0100, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi,
>
> first of all: My interest and/or question, which let me post here, is
> neither intended as the initial spark for a flame war nor as anything
> _against_ someone or something. May be it is a kind of "exploring the
> psychology of the vim human". And: English isn't my mothers tongue --
> anything sounding harsh, badly or negatively results only from this --
> it is by far NOT my intention!
>
> The start of all this was the observation, that there are many
> editors out there, which are rated differently and often on a
> scale from totally bad to fantastic. Every kind of review result
> seems to exist.
>
> But with vim it seems (at least to me) a little different: Either
> you hate it or you love it and will not touch anything else your whole
> life long (I am exeggerating only a _little_ bit ;) )
>
> The reason for this observation -- the polarization into mainly two groups
> of people -- seems not only based on the properties of vim alone.
>
> I think (read: "I dont know for sure...") that there is a certain kind
> of perception of text and/or handling of text by vim people, which
> matches perfextly the way of text usage and presentation by vim itsself.
>
> May be I am totally wrong here -- so please understand this as a
> big question mark ... I am just only driven by curiosity.
>
> Is there a certain perception of text and text handling by vim people
> which may be distintive different from people who definetly dont like
> vim?
>
> And again: May question does not indent to judge over "the better way
> of the perception of text" !!!
>
> Is there a kind of vim psychology??? ;)
>
> I am interested in answers as I am interested in questions... :)
>
> Best regards,
> mcc
>
>
>
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