Re: Support for Indian languages

On Monday, August 12, 2013 10:23:35 PM UTC+5:30, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
> On 12/08/13 13:09, Arnab Bhattacharya wrote:
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> > On Sunday, August 11, 2013 12:48:39 AM UTC+5:30, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
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> >> On 08/10/13 21:06, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
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> >>> On 08/10/13 19:15, Arnab Bhattacharya wrote:
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> >>>> I guess the support for Indian languages is still very shaky.
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> >>>> Has there been any recent improvements in rendering the fonts correctly?
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> >>> AFAIK, Vim has no real support for Brahmic scripts (devanagari,
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> >>> gujarati, bengali, et al.). No change is expected at any predictable
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> >>> future time, until or unless some user interested in such scripts
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> >>> decides to take it upon him- or herself to add the necessary C
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> >>> module(s), the way Nadim Shaikli added Arabic support a few years ago.
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> >> P.S. If you think you have the necessary expertise, then go ahead: the
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> >> Vim source is available to anyone. If you can't do it yourself but know
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> >> someone who can, try to convince them to do it. In other cases, — well,
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> >> you're just as badly put as anyone else in the list interested in
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> >> Brahmic scripts and Indian languages (other than urdu).
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> >>> Best regards,
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> >>> Tony.
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> >> --
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> >> It [being a Vulcan] means to adopt a philosophy, a way of life which is
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> >> logical and beneficial. We cannot disregard that philosophy merely for
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> >> personal gain, no matter how important that gain might be.
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> >> -- Spock, "Journey to Babel", stardate 3842.4
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> > I see.
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> > Still, it is sad to see that while even editors such as gedit supports it, vim cannot.
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> > This will probably force many users like me to move out of the habit of using vim for everything.
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> > Arnab
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> Have you tried running Vim in an mlterm terminal? That terminal supports
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> full-bidi Unicode display (as when mixing, on the same line,
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> square-letter Hebrew script with Latin script, or Arabic RTL text with
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> Arabic LTR digits), and Vim knows it. It might (or might not, I haven't
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> tested) be of some help for Brahmic scripts. Beware though, that weird
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> things may happen as you move the cursor around adding or removing text,
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> on account of the way those scripts' letters combine with each other.
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> The philosophy of open source, however — unlike that of closed systems
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> such as Windows — is not to stand looking at the heavens with an open
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> mouth, waiting for cooked larks to fall straight into it. In *x, if
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> something is missing, you code it (or find someone who does) and give it
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> back to the community. You may suggest it (as you have, and rest assured
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> that you aren't the first to do it) but you certainly don't whine about
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> it even if you /can't/ code it yourself. gedit happens to be open source
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> too. You (or someone) may want to look into its source, see how it
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> handles nagari, bengali, etc., and try to use that as a source of
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> inspiration for coding those scripts into Vim? (Beware of licensing
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> restrictions though: gedit is probably on a GPL license and I'm not sure
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> you may plagiarize its code into Vim.)
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> I'm curious though: are there good monospace fonts for that family of
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> scripts?
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> Best regards,
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> Tony.
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> --
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> It's there as a sop to former Ada programmers. :-)
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> -- Larry Wall regarding 10_000_000 in <11556@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>

The point was certainly not to whine, but to point out at other open-source tools that support the same. As a user, one may be unaware of the complexities required for a task.
Nevertheless, I get your point completely. I will see what can be done about it.
Arnab

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