Re: vim slow, Lisp, etc.

Ed Kostas wrote:
> On Thursday, November 28, 2013 2:25:40 PM UTC-2, mfid...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
>> Ed Kostas wrote:
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>>> 3- It seems that there is a Vi clone that does everything these lawyers want. It is fast in dealing with large Latex sources, it has an org-mode that works like emacs, etc. etc. It is called Evil. Third question: What am I loosing if I work with Evil?
>> A little googling yields this: https://gitorious.org/evil/pages/Home
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>> Which describes Evil as "an *e*xtensible *vi* *l*ayer for Emacs
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>> <http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/>. It emulates the main features of
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>> Vim <http://www.vim.org/>, and provides facilities for writing custom
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>> extensions."
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>>
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>> In other words, it makes emacs look like vim. So all the features
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>> they're using now - including the analysis routines written in lisp;
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>> through a simpler interface.
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>> But a larger question here: Why are they even considering moving to
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>> Vim? They seem to be using a lot of critical emacs features
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>> (particularly those based on lisp) - how would they be able to do their
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>> work without those features? If they're looking for a simpler
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>> interface, then maybe Evil would help, but then there are a few nice
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>> GUIs for emacs that might make more sense.
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>>
> Well, Miles. For lawyers, mandatory electronic pleading is a novelty. Even in the United States it is quite recent. In Brazil, it became mandatory two years ago. In Philippines, two months ago. Here are news from Philippines:

First off, kill the snide responses - not very useful when asking for help.

Second, what does the Philippines have to do with anything?

> The fact is that lawyers don't know what they need. Everything is very
> recent. They ask experts and the answer is: Emacs or Vim. I mean,
> there are experts that recommend Vim. Other experts recommend Emacs.
> The solution is checking both. That is what most lawyers are doing.

Ok, you asked a very specific question: "What am I loosing if I work
with Evil?" With the implication of "in comparison with either emacs or
vim." To be very clear, the answer appears to be "nothing" - you're
gaining in comparison to both:
1. you get org-mode
2. you get properly functioning elisp scripts
3. you get a vim-like interface

It simply doesn't sound like basic vim gets you what you're asking for.




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