Re: Changing the defaults with Vim 8

Tony Mechelynck wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Christian Brabandt <cblists@256bit.org> wrote:
> > Hi Bram!
> >
> > On So, 24 Jul 2016, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> >
> >> > please no hlsearch. That is most often annoying.
> >>
> >> Well, I find it useful. But I suppose that's more a personal
> >> preference.
> >
> > perhaps, if we made ctrl-l clear the search highlighting by default?
> >
> >> > some more I would set, the mentioned
> >> > :set display+=lastline
> >>
> >> As mentioned, I don't use it myself, I expect long time Vi/Vim users to
> >> be surprised if this changes.
> >
> > Really? I think the default of a bunch of '@'
> > doesn't really help anybody, instead show at least the beginning of the
> > line.
> >
>
> For people like me, who set 'wrap', display-=lastline would replace a
> "long last line" by several rows of @@@@@... which can be _extremely_
> annoying. Just @@@ at bottom right (or at bottom left if 'rightleft'
> is set) should IMHO be sufficient to show that the line goes on after
> the end of the screen, without filling maybe half the screen with only
> row after row after row of only at-signs.
>
> Of course I set +=lastline myself, since I need it and ATM it is not a
> default, but I can't imagine someone hollering in dismay if a last
> line (of several screen lines if 'wrap' is set) weren't anymore filled
> with at-signs only, but only the last three character cells were.

The problem of the current "lastline" implementation is that the @@@ at
the end is quite hard to spot. Switching from the old Vi behavior of
all "@" lines to that is quite a big jump:

old:
asdf asdf asdf asdf asd
@
@
@
@

lastline:
asdf asdf asdf asdf asd
asdf asdf asdf asdf asd fasdf asdf asdf asd fasd f
asdf asdf asdf asdf asd fasdf asdf asdf asd fasd f
asdf asdf asdf asdf asd fasdf asdf asdf asd fasd f
asdf asdf asdf asdf asd fasdf asdf asdf asd fas@@@

At the same time, the "@" lines filling most of the screen it useless.
I think everybody agrees with that.

So, trying to find a solution that we can use as default for everybody,
how about this: Show "@@@" in the last line, no other text. Then it's
clear there is more following, but still showing the lines that are
available. For a two-screen-line while there is only space for one, you
would only get "@@@". Users who want more can switch to "lastline" as
before. We could call this "truncate"

truncate:
asdf asdf asdf asdf asd
asdf asdf asdf asdf asd fasdf asdf asdf asd fasd f
asdf asdf asdf asdf asd fasdf asdf asdf asd fasd f
asdf asdf asdf asdf asd fasdf asdf asdf asd fasd f
@@@


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