Sunday, November 25, 2012

Re: Is Vundle dead?

these are really good points.
I'd like to start this project of "migrating" to VAM from "manual mode".
but I really don't want to risk my production laptop by any chance. maybe I start from another "non-important" system and see how I feel when I move on.
is there anything I need to be careful about ?

thanks!

regards
ping

On 11/25/2012 12:07 PM, Marc Weber wrote:
Excerpts from ping's message of Sun Nov 25 17:31:33 +0100 2012:  
thanks for the good discussion. the comment is helpful. now I know if I   need, one of the 3 (or maybe all?) can be my choice.  for metoday I'm still manually install plugins per needful. it's overall   not a painful work.  99%the installation is just put.vim file in plugins and help doc in doc   folder.  I'm thinking what might be the real driver for me to believe I MUST (or   really BETTER) to install one of those.  
  Its *not* about installing, but about    - updating    - removing    - trouble shooting    And there are a lot of plugins which ship with    plugin/    autoload/    syntax/    doc/    files. So it may require book-keeping, and you always run the risk that  files get renamed, so copying files over .vim is not enough.    By trouble shooting I mean: VAM implements bisecting nowadays. Thus you  can make it activate sets of plugins to find the one causing trouble to  you in a case. Not loading a plugin is as easy as removing a name from a  list or commenting a "Bundle foo" line using vundle.    It happened at least to 2-3 people that they were using old Sander's  snipmate running into trouble, asking for help. And the fix was always  "upgrade to latest version, it provides additional helpful features such  as automatically reloading script files depending no file modification  date" etc. If you install manually, you're going to miss such small  changes over time. Eg VAM does no longer let you install the old  snipmate by default - this way it can protect you against failure or  against spending your time on outdated tools.  Same happened to pyflake like plugins - people usually are more happy with  either syntastic or vim-addon-syntax-checker.    For this reason I invite the community to contribute to  vim-addon-manager-known-repository - so that overall user experience can  be maximized to everybody.    More than that you don't want to load all plugins always. Eg plugins  such as DrawIt may be useful once a month. What do do?  Using VAM you just do:    :ActivateAddon DrawIt  at runtime and you're done.    Marc Weber  

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