Saturday, February 16, 2013

Re: Our posts are being flagged as spam.

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Erik Christiansen
<dvalin@internode.on.net> wrote:
> On 16.02.13 20:02, John Little wrote:
>> Just had a quick look in my gmail spam folder, and didn't see any
>> headers like you report.
>> Why would you complain to Google?
>
> Please examine the footer from your own post:
>
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>
>> Are they your mail provider?
>
> No. The footer and the headers in the misclassified posts suggest to me
> that they are spuriously spam-labelling our list mail. Perhaps there is
> so much spam out there that incredibly stupid filtering, such as
> classifying google's own footer as spam, is worth the biscuit:
>
> X-SpamDetect: *********: 9.055555 IronPort detected Suspected Spam=14.0,
> IronPort SPAM scanned=-10.0, Aspam=5.1
> X-Aspam: Words 2.1 +because +received +visit +group +options +groups
> -post +https +subscribed
> X-Aspam: URLS scored 3.0 google.com
> X-Aspam: Best match was sample aspam_catch\m639.msg
>
> While classifying a list post as spam because it contains the words
> "because, received, and subscribed", seems in itself entirely
> dysfunctional, it escalates to perversity when they have themselves
> inserted the text at which they take offence. Is Google totally nuts?
>
> Can our list admins fix the footer, to avoid google's landmines?
>
> Erik
>
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Something else is going on somewhere. I use gmail and I don't have any
problems getting mail from this list. If Google thinks something is
spam and I have set a filter so it puts the mail where I want it and
not in the spam folder Google complains saying this should be spam but
you have set filters to keep it out of spam. I don't get that annoying
message with this list. There are a few other list that I do get it
but I just ignore it. I also check my spam folder and trash folder
regularly and tell Google it screwed up when it does which is not very
often.

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