Re: Our posts are being flagged as spam.

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013, Erik Christiansen wrote:

> On 16.02.13 20:02, John Little wrote:
>> Just had a quick look in my gmail spam folder, and didn't see any
>> headers like you report.
>> Why would you complain to Google?
>
> Please examine the footer from your own post:
>
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>
>> Are they your mail provider?
>
> No. The footer and the headers in the misclassified posts suggest to
> me that they are spuriously spam-labelling our list mail.

Google has nothing to do with the spam headers you're showing us.
vim-use@vim.org is an alias to vim_use@googlegroups.com. The vim-use
list is a Google Group.


> Perhaps there is so much spam out there that incredibly stupid
> filtering, such as classifying google's own footer as spam, is worth
> the biscuit:
>
> X-SpamDetect: *********: 9.055555 IronPort detected Suspected Spam=14.0,
> IronPort SPAM scanned=-10.0, Aspam=5.1
> X-Aspam: Words 2.1 +because +received +visit +group +options +groups
> -post +https +subscribed
> X-Aspam: URLS scored 3.0 google.com
> X-Aspam: Best match was sample aspam_catch\m639.msg
>
> While classifying a list post as spam because it contains the words
> "because, received, and subscribed", seems in itself entirely
> dysfunctional, it escalates to perversity when they have themselves
> inserted the text at which they take offence. Is Google totally nuts?

Speaking of totally nuts... My favorite example from your prior email
was:

> From: Ben Fritz <fritzophrenic@gmail.com>
> ...
> Subject: Re: ctags processing jumps to wrong tag?
> ...
> X-SpamDetect: **********: 10.416555 Adult word cum=0.7, [...]

Really? Tagging the "Adult word cum"? The email contained the word "document".


> Can our list admins fix the footer, to avoid google's landmines?

No. This is a problem with your ISP. Just whitelist whatever address
you need to whitelist (probably: vim_use@googlegroups.com). You'll get
occasional spam emails, but Google Groups is pretty good about not
letting much through. (But that might also be because mine's then
filtered through Gmail's spam detection.)

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Best,
Ben

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