Wednesday, January 4, 2012

Re: Can't write to ntfs file system

Marty Fried wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Joan Miquel Torres Rigo
> <joanmiquel@mallorcaweb.net <mailto:joanmiquel@mallorcaweb.net>> wrote:
>
> 2012/1/4 Marty Fried <marty@leftcoast-usa.com
> <mailto:marty@leftcoast-usa.com>>:
> >>
> > I'm surprised to hear this - it seems to go against the
> philosophy that
> > someone with root permission should know what they are doing,
> and is working
> > without protection on purpose.
>
> That's not exact:
>
> Root account should NEVER been used in production environments. You
> should use sudo instead.
>
> I agree. That is why I believe that if someone is using root account
> for something, it is probably for maintenance, or to fix a problem.
> It may be that the person has root access for maintenance, but is not
> in the sudo users file, and doesn't have time to set it up for a
> one-time use.
>
>
> Apart of that, a welder also should know what he are doing while
> managing soldering iron. But leaving things disordered in its
> workspace is always a bad idea. Even when you know exactly what you
> are doing.
>
> I think the welder is the normal user. It's more like root is a
> repair person, who is repairing the welder's equipment. A welder
> shouldn't take the equipment apart, normally, but a repair person may
> need to, and knows what they are doing. You don't want to disable the
> equipment in some way when he's working on it, as he may need it to be
> functioning normally to fix it.
>
Nice philosophy, but: I suspect that due to the free nature of the
various linux distros, there are quite a few "root" users who only
barely know what they're doing. Having a complex editor like Vim doing
things (such as backups, changing permissions, changing ownership) isn't
a good idea imho. Such things should be done explicitly (ie.
chmod,chgrp, chown, or by menu); requiring all the barely to somewhat
competent root administrators to have mastered all the nuances of vim is
naive.
Admittedly, I didn't go over all 83 hits I got with helpgrep in detail.

Regards,
Chip Campbell

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