Sunday, January 29, 2012

Re: Redhat Linux has crippled Vim

On 29/01/12 05:23, howard Schwartz wrote:
> Linux ubunix02.acsu.buffalo.edu 2.6.18-274.12.1.el5 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8
> 21:37:35 EST 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> Vim: minimal:
>
> VIM - Vi IMproved 7.0 (2006 May 7, compiled Aug 4 2010 07:21:53)
> Included patches: 1, 3-4, 7-9, 11, 13-17, 19-26, 29-31, 34-44, 47,
> 50-56, 58-64, 66-73, 75, 77-92, 94-107, 109, 202, 234-237
> Compiled by <bugzilla@redhat.com>

7.0.237, that source dates back to 1 May 2007 (7 May 2006, as listed, is
the unpatched 7.0), I can't understand why RedHat was still using that
source (more than three years old by then) on 4 August 2010.

>
>
> I believe the version of gvim I tried was 7.0. Im relatively new to the
> world of rpm's for fedora or redhat. What I find is that when I look,
> using phonefind or rpmfind for packages -- I get ones for the wrong
> platform, I get ones with links to ftp sites that do not work. When I go
> to the sites, that version of vim is no longer there. Or I get something
> that might work, I download and install it to the university computer.
> And most often it does not work for one reason or another.

Anyway, IIUC the RPM itself says where (as absolute paths) its contents
are to be unpacked; the install should be run as root; if you don't have
admin privileges, and try to install an RPM archive, it will probably
fail with "permission denied" or somesuch.

>
> In sum, even if I know all the parameters to look for, I do not know how
> to find a corresponding package that will really work. And they have
> arranged it so I do not have permission to run make, configure, install,
> or the gcc compiler.

tough luck.

Well, I could send you a .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 of the Vim version I'm
currently using (on openSUSE Linux 12.1, Huge 64-bit version with [among
others] +gui_gnome +gui_gtk2 +perl +python +ruby +tcl) but there's no
guarantee that the libraries it needs will be found on your system, or
even that if they _are_ installed (and with the versions it needs) they
will be found where the program looks for them.

>
> I was very luckly, for instance, to find a workable Pine email client
> for this
> platform, when the people who installed redhat decided to discontinue
> support for Pine (but my friends wanted it).
>
>
>

Could you please use "Reply to List" if your mailer offers it, or at
least "Reply to All" (rather than just "Reply to Author")? I'm just one
user of Vim, and by emailing only me you deprive yourself of possible
answers from other people. One reason I've been systematically adding
back the list when replying to you is to allow other people to correct
me if and when I make a mistake.


Best regards,
Tony.
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